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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (674443)	3/8/2005 10:22:53 AM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769670

Who cares? The GOOD GUYS are like the old Red Army: Keep 'em well-armed and they outnumber all the bad guys you SS welfare queens can send up against them. Not a PROBLEM to lose one occasionally. There's plenty of granite around for the monuments...

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (674443)	3/8/2005 11:34:54 AM
From: Sedohr Nod	Respond to of 769670

Hogwash...Chicago has pretty strict firearm restrictions...C&C laws might have evened the odds or at least put doubts in the perpetrators minds...The slime that did those murders had little to fear from their victims.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (674443)	3/8/2005 2:13:48 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

If that judge's husband had a weapon available and was trained and ready to use it, he could have prevented the murders. Concealed carry has nothing to do with it.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (674443)	3/8/2005 5:13:28 PM
From: DizzyG	Respond to of 769670

Another lie, Kenneth? You state: Conceal and carry just eliminated the husband of a federal judge in Chicago. You're not suggesting that Illinois has Conceal and Carry laws are you. States that PROHIBIT the Carrying of Concealed Weapons - There is no CCW permit process. 5 states prohibit the carrying of concealed handguns in public. They do not issue CCW permits. These states are: Illinois, Kansas, Nebraska, Ohio, and Wisconsin. bradycampaign.org Oops...looks like you've been caught again. Diz-

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (674443)	3/8/2005 5:37:02 PM
From: Wayners	Respond to of 769670

The Good Guys? I see 3 to 6 of these types of stories each and every day. These are 3 I saw today: And by the way, Illinois doesn't issue CCW permits. A former Southport police officer is in jail after shooting his wife nearly a year ago. Monday in court, 41-year-old Edward Meyer pled guilty to shooting his estranged wife, Kelly, in the arm during an argument. That happened last April. Meyer will serve a 90-day sentence and must also surrender his law enforcement certificate, undergo counseling and have no further contact with his estranged wife. He will also be on probation for five years. Kelly Meyer has already undergone two surgeries to repair her shattered shoulder. She says the 90-day sentence does not fit the crime, and wished Meyer had been sentenced to more. The judge said Edward Meyer was supposed to enforce and uphold the law and he must now pay the price. A former grand Rapids police officer has received his penalty for assaulting a suspect. Matthew Lockhart had pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault and battery, an incident that stemmed from the arrest of Darius Joseph in June 2004. Other officers reported that Lockhart beat Joseph with a police radio and kicked him. In court Friday, Lockhart received 80 hours of community service or 15 days in jail. He then spoke publicly for the first time about what happened last year. "I would like to apologize for the incident and indicate to you that my behavior during this incident was totally out of character, and I regret it, and I assure you that I will not be before this court again," Lockhart told the courtroom. He worked for the police department for nine years before being fired after his arrest. "A mistrial was declared on Monday in the manslaughter trial of New York police officer Bryan Conroy, who shot and killed an unarmed African immigrant nearly two years ago." "The District Attorney's office said it would retry the case." "A $150 million civil lawsuit has been filed by Zongo's estate against the city, Conroy and the police department. It cannot proceed until the criminal trial is resolved." "Conroy, 26, faced a prison term of up to 15 years for shooting Ousmane Zongo, 43, four times while working undercover in May 2003, in a Manhattan warehouse raid." "Justice Daniel Fitzgerald declared a mistrial after the jury advised its members could not agree on a verdict in the Manhattan's State Supreme Court trial after more than five days of deliberation." ...

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (674443)	3/8/2005 5:44:50 PM
From: goldworldnet	Respond to of 769670

DNA in Judge's Home Doesn't Match Profiles Tue Mar 8,11:50 AM ET U.S. National - AP news.yahoo.com CHICAGO - DNA samples were pulled from a cigarette butt found in the home where a federal judge's mother and husband were shot to death, but tests did not match any known criminal profile in the United States, according to published report. The genetic material, tested at the FBI (news - web sites) laboratory in Quantico, Va., also did not match any members of Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow's family, the Chicago Tribune reported, citing unnamed sources, in Tuesday's editions. More than 2.27 million genetic profiles are available for matching in the national database, FBI officials said last week. Investigators have called the cigarette butt a key piece of evidence because it was found in the kitchen sink. The bodies of Michael Lefkow, 64, and Donna Humphrey, 89, of Denver, were found in the basement. Investigators have gathered several other pieces of evidence from the North Side home and neighborhood, including a broken window with a fingerprint and a bloody footprint. Other cigarette butts and a soda can were found near the home in an area where a witness reported seeing a car parked. Authorities have received more than 600 tips about the Feb. 28 slayings, according to the Chicago Police Department, and last Friday the FBI announced a $50,000 reward. Meanwhile, the parents of white supremacist Matthew Hale, who is in jail awaiting sentencing for previously soliciting an FBI informant to kill the judge, have been told their weekly phone calls and bimonthly visits with him have been halted indefinitely. A spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Chicago would not comment on the halted visits. Several people linked to Matthew Hale said they have been questioned by detectives and the FBI about the slayings. A man recently released from a Florida prison said Monday he told investigators it was possible that members of a small faction related to Hale's group may be behind the slayings. "It wouldn't surprise me if somebody did take it upon themselves to do this," Jerald Overturf, who said he is head of prison ministries for Hale's organization, told the Tribune. "They might think they'd get some brownie points later. I think it's disgusting. It's not what the church was supposed to be about." Other people who have been interviewed by investigators include a Ku Klux Klan leader who hosted Hale at rallies on his Indiana farm and a former Hale associate who left Chicago on a one-way ticket for Las Vegas last week. Matthew Hale has denied any involvement in the slayings, or of soliciting the judge's murder. On Monday night, about 200 people gathered outside the Lefkows' home to pray for the family during a candlelight vigil. "We came here because this is a symbol of everything that is good," resident Thomas Green said. "And what happened last week symbolized everything that is bad." * * *