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Biotech / Medical : Ciphergen Biosystems(CIPH): -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: tuck who wrote (316)	3/21/2005 3:39:51 PM
From: tuck	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 510

[Posts on reproducibility archived in one post] post.messages.yahoo.com Note the previous one concerning the take -- a somewhat gloomy one -- of someone who attneded a recent biomarker conference (see the post that I, as Rockrat1960, replied to). Cheers, Tuck

To: tuck who wrote (316)	5/12/2005 4:36:12 PM
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This study, with the best results to date of any ovarian test I've seen is a full text freebie. I thought it would be in Chinese, but it is in English. They have identified the markers, but have not revealed them. Reckon they're sewing up the IP for licensing. Unclear to me if CIPH has any right of first refusal or any interest at all. I have heard that the license to use the machine includes assignment of diagnostic rights to any SELDI based assays to CIPH. That would seem to leave open the idea of identifying the markers and developing a diagnostic in a different format. The Yahoo poster who mentioned this license opined that no one would buy the machine if CIPH got ALL diagnostic rights. zju.edu.cn Note the samples are snap frozen, and not thawed until prepped for use in the SELDI MS. Why didn't CIPH produce a study using such samples with its pattern? I'm guessing that's why they signed that recent deal with M.D. Anderson. They need access to fresh samples to really prove their chosen biomarker set can compete with ones like these, or those put out today by Ward et. al. Cheers, Tuck