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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (388)	3/9/2005 2:26:31 PM
From: redfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 777

Pride used to be a great sin ... in Paradise Lost it is Lucifer's only weakness and led him to be cast out of heaven. I think the meaning of the word has morphed over the centuries where now it is seen as a positive attribute and is often consists of a willingness to boast, strut and preen. Conversely humility used to seen as a great virtue.

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (388)	3/9/2005 2:38:05 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 777

The only connection is an awe and appreciation of the sacrifice and bravery, a sense of accomplishment for all of mankind, and a bit of superiority for good standing up to the vilest evil. I appreciate the sentiment you describe and I share it. I think our difference is merely semantic. Webster specifies "self" in its definitions of pride although I suppose you could stretch "relationship" to include all fellow human beings. 1 : the quality or state of being proud: as a : inordinate self-esteem : CONCEIT b : a reasonable or justifiable self-respect c : delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship <parental pride>