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To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (28278)	3/10/2005 2:21:23 AM
From: Henry Niman	Respond to of 110194

The sequence of the H5N1 in Thailand was virtually identical to the other H5N1 isolates from Vietnam and Thailand (which are all human to human in clusters). Finding an example of a mother separated from her daughter at the time of infection was rare, but the situation of a primary infecting a care giver family member is quite common. In 11 out of 11 familial clusters the onset dates are bimodal, just as they were in the case cited. The data clearly show human to human transmission in all clusters, which account for over 1/3 of all cases. recombinomics.com The media, CDC, and WHO keep repeating the mantra, (although each time a cluster with a bimodal distribution is mentioned, they admit that human to human transmission can't be ruled out because of the time lag), which has always been incorrect and continuous repeating just makes them look foolish. They can ignore the time lag once or twice, but not 11 times in a row. Anyone paying attention (including WHO and CDC) knows the real deal. The media just prints what they are told, which is clearly slanted so the mantra can be faithfully repeated daily.

To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (28278)	3/10/2005 3:07:54 AM
From: Henry Niman	Respond to of 110194

The WSJ story covers 18 new cases not in the tally. These don't include the new cases in Thai Binh where a veterinarian was just admitted with bird flu symptoms news.google.com The number of unreported cases is significant, just like the 11 withheld. It's simply damage control (with so many Thai Binh cases, adding others from other areas is considered a better move than continuing to hide the new cases, even though 8 of 11 died). It's like the citation of the Thailand cluster. CDC adds that the virus from that cluster has been isolated and its like the others, which of course is bad because it shows that the existing H5N1 can transmit human to human, but that is considered good news, because efficient human to human due to genetic change of H5N1 is worse!

To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (28278)	3/10/2005 3:45:23 PM
From: Henry Niman	Respond to of 110194

Analysis of the secondary infections in the familial clusters shows that they are almost all female because the primary caregivers are female news.google.com (real men eat ducks and blood pudding)

To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (28278)	3/10/2005 8:35:03 PM
From: Henry Niman	Respond to of 110194

WHO accidentally releases data showing dual infections in patient in Thai Binh in 2004. This is well into the very bad news category news.google.com The irony is the fact that the release was part of an argument against human to human transmission, when it fact it showed that H5N1 was dually infecting and could produce clinically different diseases.