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To: michael97123 who wrote (158944)	3/10/2005 5:50:14 PM
From: Win Smith	Respond to of 281500

Um. The white man's burden thing is sort of a colonialist / imperial thing. I had it vaguely associated with Kipling and the British Empire, but googling it turns up a much less vague connection on the first hit, fordham.edu . There seems to have been a certain irony in the phrase from the beginning. The association with liberal do-gooders is obscure, to say the least. There are neo-colonialism advocates around these days, but I don't think that they have any particular leftist tendencies. You may join Nadine in constructing endless straw men about what "liberals" or "the left" believe in this or any other context of your choosing. You got a lot of catching up to do on that front if you want to match the grand arbiter, though. To the best of my knowledge, "liberals" these days are mostly with Will Roger's proverbial "no organized political party", and they believe lots of different stuff. All the dogmatic faith-based initiatives explaining the one true way the world works tend to come from the other side of the aisle, is my impression. I am somewhat amused by the allegation that neocons descend from the civil rights movement. That's a new one. Maybe that's connected with the "Bush is like Lincoln" line that was floated late in the election season?