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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (22592)	3/11/2005 7:05:01 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81092

Gus > inasmuch as you insinuate that South Africa would be better off under a white rule... as if white-run countries were all paragons of good governance Indeed. Just as the US, SA can't get away from its racial heritage, even thought it now claims to have left all that behind. I guess there's more to being a democracy than simply voting.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (22592)	3/13/2005 4:33:25 PM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 81092

Gus, I think this is your department. What Really Happened to the Russian Sub Kursk codshit.blogspot.com >>The seismographic soundings recorded at Arces on Norway's Finnmark coast, at Spits on Spitsbergen, and at Norway's Nores station in Helmark showed that there had been two explosions - the first a kind of scraping impact, and then two minutes later, a gigantic one, 45-50 times greater than the first one - indicating that the Russian sub had collided with something, apparently another submarine, given the sonar sounding, and then blown up, either by something exploding inside, or out. What was most alarming about the American exercise, though, was what would happen if the monitoring was discovered, and something terrible followed - what, unfortunately, occurred, as the wrecked hull of the Kursk demonstrated when it was finally recovered from the seabed. When the Memphis started trailing the Kursk, it overran it, not appreciating how silent it was at slow speed, scrapping a terrible gash along its starboard side up to its tower - what caused the first explosion. The Toledo then panicked, assuming that the exercise was now in big trouble at home, and fearing that the Memphis was either sunk or severely damaged. To limit the damage, possibly even cover it up, it fired its most powerful torpedo at close range, and it hit the Kursk broadside, right below the long gash, and it penetrated the Kursk's inner hull, setting off explosions which doomed it. Then the Memphis and the Toledo made their getaways, and their gamble paid off, as the disaster was covered up - at great financial expense to Washington again - rather than played out for all it was worth militarily. The Russians did indicate, though, that they thought than an American torpedo had done it all...<<

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (22592)	3/13/2005 4:37:24 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81092

Gus, I think this is your department. What Really Happened to the Russian Sub Kursk codshit.blogspot.com >>The seismographic soundings recorded at Arces on Norway's Finnmark coast, at Spits on Spitsbergen, and at Norway's Nores station in Helmark showed that there had been two explosions - the first a kind of scraping impact, and then two minutes later, a gigantic one, 45-50 times greater than the first one - indicating that the Russian sub had collided with something, apparently another submarine, given the sonar sounding, and then blown up, either by something exploding inside, or out. What was most alarming about the American exercise, though, was what would happen if the monitoring was discovered, and something terrible followed - what, unfortunately, occurred, as the wrecked hull of the Kursk demonstrated when it was finally recovered from the seabed. When the Memphis started trailing the Kursk, it overran it, not appreciating how silent it was at slow speed, scrapping a terrible gash along its starboard side up to its tower - what caused the first explosion. The Toledo then panicked, assuming that the exercise was now in big trouble at home, and fearing that the Memphis was either sunk or severely damaged. To limit the damage, possibly even cover it up, it fired its most powerful torpedo at close range, and it hit the Kursk broadside, right below the long gash, and it penetrated the Kursk's inner hull, setting off explosions which doomed it. Then the Memphis and the Toledo made their getaways, and their gamble paid off, as the disaster was covered up - at great financial expense to Washington again - rather than played out for all it was worth militarily. The Russians did indicate, though, that they thought than an American torpedo had done it all...<<