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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (19382)	3/12/2005 1:05:34 AM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

I design things and review designs for a living. If it wasn't planned it didn't generally happen. What isn't planned is almost always bad. Rarely, is anything good without considerable planning. Planning comes from learning from mistakes and ensuring that they are not repeated. Similar logic goes for any construct of human endeavor. It would be unlikely for your religion to be true and good without it being planned. If it wasn't planned, it probably wasn't any good. But everybody agrees on these points, no matter what their religion (generally speaking). So, I'm left with the question in my mind: does the universe need a planner, or is the universe simply those accidents that worked out okay, meaning a very improbably universe or an emergent universe? If a bird flies in the window tonight and tap dances with a little miniature hat, then it happened, no matter how unlikely. All religions ask me to believe something that absurd. Okay. But I probably won't because it probably didn't happen as they said without a plan. That puts me in the plan. Emergence says it could have a built in plan. That is enough room for everyone: Universes with plans and without plans, universes that need them and those that don't. You get to choose. What's that tap, tap, tapping coming from my chamber door? Quoth the raven: "Nevermore!"

To: Greg or e who wrote (19382)	3/12/2005 10:54:41 AM
From: Grandk	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 28931

First, The claims of the various religions are not as similar as you suppose. Like I said in my post to cosmic, I believe it is all perspective. In my life, God has taught me all I know. He is the one who changes us. He is the one who reveals all things. As Christians, we do poorly when it comes to judging others. We are full of justice. But we lack the mercy. Islam, Judaism, Christianity all have an essential starting point: A God of love. That is all that matters. Second; it does not necessarily follow that all are wrong although that is one possibility. What is indubitable, is that they cannot all be correct! Yes, they can. We all see through a mirror darkly lit. God is a blur to us, even to the mystics.