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To: SilentZ who wrote (223579)3/12/2005 11:07:24 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Respond to of 1573901
 
Z, Ummm... sorta... it's bad, but it's stable. Or it was stable.

Not "stable." Just "contained." That illusion of containment ended on 9/11/2001.

Tenchusatsu



To: SilentZ who wrote (223579)3/13/2005 1:15:50 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1573901
 
Compared to sub-Saharan Africa, it's a utopia

Its certainly better than sub-Saharan Africa but that is a pretty low standard.

and I'd rather have us be there

Sub-Saharan Africa not only doesn't have oil, but it has less of an international terrorism threat, and very little threat of nuclear proliferation. Also while the armies are weaker and there is less Islamic terrorism to worry about if we went in an knocked over their governments to try and set up a democracy there would be less specific prior justification, and more practical difficulties to deal with an infrastructure to build.

If we could turn the whole place in to a collection of peaceful, stable, developing, capitalist, democracies for little more effort and cost (in financial terms, and in American and allied lives lost, and in locals killed) than we have put in to Iraq and Afghanistan combined than it would be worth it but I don't think it would be so easy, in fact I think it would be enormously hard while at the same time getting an even worse international reaction than the invasion of Iraq did.

Tim