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To: Sully- who wrote (8512)3/14/2005 11:44:00 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Blogosphere workflow

Wizbang
By Paul on Humor

Following up on my previous post about the liberal bloggers trying to manipulate the media into giving them more mainstream media coverage. I thought I'd lay out the typical workflow of left wing and right wing bloggers. This will explain why the left wing bloggers don't get as much ink from the big media.

The right wing workflow is from first hand experience... I've done this 1000 times.

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Right Wing Blogger Workflow

1) Go to my favorite media outlet and read a news story that bashes: (pick 1 or many) Bush, America, U.S. Soldiers, a member of the Bush administration, Mom (unless she turned lesbian and threw Dad out) or Apple pie.

2) Sniff out that the reporter got the main fact or facts wrong.

3) Google up proof the reporter is full of shit.

4) Compile it all together and provide links to prove the media to be full of shit again.

5) Once in a blue moon, the media admits they were wrong.



Left Wing Blogger Workflow

1) Go to their favorite media outlet and read a news story that bashes: (pick 1 or many) Bush, America, U.S. Soldiers, a member of the Bush administration, Mom (unless she turned lesbian and threw Dad out) or Apple pie.

2) Post excerpt on blog.

3) Agree with every bogus fact, add nothing to the debate except except a link to last week's [now discredited] story.

4) Then finish the post by calling Bush and/or Republicans a dumb name.

5) Whine when the media ignores you.

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That THAT boys and girls is why liberal bloggers don't get any ink.

P.S. Notice this is a HUMOR post, don't get your panties in a twist.

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To: Sully- who wrote (8512)3/14/2005 11:50:56 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Lefty Bloggers Craving Media Attention

Blogs for Bush

Paul over at Wizbang brings our attention to a New York Times article on liberal bloggers and their persistent begging for "big media ink."

I remember a time when Howard Dean was running for President, and these liberal bloggers were regularly invoking the theme of "grassroots" and "people-powered" this, and "people-powered" that. Two years ago, they thought their "grassroots movement" was going to remove George W. Bush from the White House and replace him with Howard Dean. They actually believed they were doing the job that the "right-wing media" (their description, not mine) wasn't doing.

Now, after several victories by the "right wing" bloggers to move the news and Bush's reelection, liberal bloggers feel emasculated because they've just not been as effective/influential as the conservative bloggers. They've definitely tried. While conservative bloggers can say they helped take down Dan Rather and Eason Jordan, the liberal bloggers went after an unknown pseudo-journalist (who no one had heard of before) reporting for an online publication (which frankly, few people read).

Now the liberal blogs want to move from "people-powered" to "media-powered"... just because they want some time in the spotlight. It is hard to blame them for desiring media attention — bloggers want recognition for what they do. But recognition by the media does not necessary increase their influence. Truth be told, liberal blogs seem to enjoy most of the media attention. It's hard to find story about blogs that doesn't mention Daily Kos or Wonkette. It's never occurred to the liberal blogosphere that maybe the reason they've lacked influence is because they've lacked substance, or as Paul says, "right-wing blogs have had a stronger influence because we have had the facts on our side!"

I've said before that liberal bloggers may have put blogs "on the map," but the conservative bloggers made blogs a landmark on that map. Conservative bloggers are the ones demanding accountability in the media, not unity with the media. That's why conservatives blogs have been more influential.


UPDATE: Jeff Jarvis weighs in...
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Posted by Matt at March 14, 2005 10:00 AM

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To: Sully- who wrote (8512)3/14/2005 11:55:34 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
What liberal media?

Buzzmachine

There's a most curious story in The Times today about Democrats.com's efforts to have media join a conference call to hear their side of things. They have no idea whether media actually called in. I've not seen any stories about the call. So there's no way to know whether this is a success. Yet The Times devotes considerable attention to it on the front of the business section.

The larger story is a good and interesting one: Are conservatives doing a better job than liberals at using the blogosphere to investigate and spread stories and get them into mainstream media?

But this conference call thing is just a blip.

I called into one of them -- subject: Jeff Gannon -- because MSNBC was going to have a discussion mentioning it with Bob Cox and Ameriblog and I was to join in via blogcast. It all got preempted when the Pope burped. I got into the call a bit late and also hung around after the official part was over and I heard the participants asking with great anticipation whether any reporters had actually called in. None showed themselves.

So it just seems odd to me that this odd venture gets so much attention in The Times. That's all I'm saying: It's odd.

: By the way, I never did compliment The Times for its story last week on the Apple-v-blogger case: It was a good and blogsmart story that went to great sources, including Susan Crawford and Jack Balkin (quoted again today).

: Joe Gandleman comments on the conference-call story.

buzzmachine.com



To: Sully- who wrote (8512)3/14/2005 12:14:43 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Hardship duty

Power Line

Trunk has already linked to the New York Times story, in which I was quoted, about the efforts of left-wing bloggers to market their stories, ravings, and fantasies to the MSM through conference calls. The story seems fair and balanced, and the author, Jonathan Glater, quoted me accurately. More importantly, he quoted Kristinn Taylor of Free Republic, who captured the left's problem more succinctly than I did, stating that, in order to break through, left-wing bloggers might have to outgrow the conspiracy-theory stage of blogging to produce reports that are credible and relevant to a wider audience.

My biggest regret about the story is that Glater quoted my assertion that the MSM does not feed out of the hands of conservative blogs, but did not include my stated basis for this claim (I assume this was due to space limitations). As I explained to Glater, the Rather story was initiated by CBS and, under these circumstances, the network's use of fraudulent documents could not go unreported. However, in two other important cases, the Swiftvet and Eason Jordan stories, conservative blogs faced great resistance from the MSM. In the first case, the story received little or no MSM attention until Kerry broke his silence, signaling that this story was hurting him and had to be addressed. In the second case, the story received virtually no attention until Jordan was on his way out the door.

I also regret that Glater did not use what was probably my best line of the interview -- that newspapers should pay someone to read political blogs, just as they pay people to watch bad movies.

powerlineblog.com



To: Sully- who wrote (8512)3/14/2005 1:27:20 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
BEWARE THE MESSENGER:

Real Clear Politics (relevant links below)

Via Powerline I noticed this story in the tech section of today's New York Times featuring liberal bloggers' attempts to promote their stories to the mainstream media through weekly conference calls. The public relations effort is being organized by a guy named Bob Fertik:

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"We hope to build a bridge," Mr. Fertik said, adding that different bloggers would be invited to share their reporting on each call. "We hope that good credible stories that are broken on the Internet find their way into coverage in the mainstream media."
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So who is Bob Fertik? He's a self-described "life-long progressive and Democratic Party activist" and co-founder of the web site Democrats.com. The only reason I recognized Fertik's name is because he was a behind-the-scenes player in reviving the Bush Texas Air National Guard story in early 2004 - which I wrote about here.
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At that time, which was obviously prior to the current design of Fertik's web site, Democrats.com contained such interesting and useful pages as "Bush-Nazi Links", "Bush Hatred" and this page calling for the impeachment of George Bush, Dick Cheney and five members of the U.S. Supreme Court which states that "George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have illegally occupied the White House since January 20, 2001."

In other words, Fertik is a long-time dweller in the furthest nether regions of the lefty fever swamp. And far from wanting to promote "good credible stories" to the mainstream, Fertik revealed his intentions by telling The Times:


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"The way we perceive it," he said, "is that right-wing bloggers are able to invent stories, get them out on Drudge, get them on Rush Limbaugh, get them on Fox, and pretty soon that spills over into the mainstream media. We, the progressives, we don't have that kind of network to work with."
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The problem with this, of course, is that conservative bloggers haven't "invented" anything, any more so than Josh Marshall & Co. "invented" a story about Trent Lott.

Still, from Fertik's far-left perspective he sees a conservative pipeline that pumps bogus stories from the blogosphere into the public consciousness through Rush Limbaugh and Fox. Fertik's wants his own pipeline to push bogus stories, and he's hoping the members of the mainstream media will oblige. Here's hoping they won't.


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