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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Alan Smithee who wrote (30824)3/14/2005 4:22:15 PM
From: Ish  Respond to of 90947
 
<<My secretary does Barrel Racing.>>

My wife did that as a kid. Now she's into dressage in her old age.

<<She just told me about a bull rider who was killed in Montana last year. Appears the bull stepped on his throat.>>

October 21, 2004
Profile of "The World's Most Dangerous Bull" On TV
The Oudoor Life Network has been airing a program that features a profile of the legendary bucking bull Bodacious. The show is called Fearless and the episode featuring the bull will air on Oct. 24 at 10:30pm, and on Oct. 28 at 8:00pm. For a current schedule and other show times, check the OLN Website for information.

Only 6 cowboys out of a whopping 135 put together an 8 second ride on the huge 1,800-pound Bodacious.

Bodacious learned a devastating move during his career. The bull would take a steep buck to get his rider leaning forward and then would throw back his massive head in an attempt to collide with his rider.

Champion Bull Rider Tuff Hedeman was one cowboy who rode the powerful bull for a full 8 seconds, but on his next attempt Bodacious used his wicked move and literally smashed Tuff's face.

Weeks later, cowboy Scott Breding attempted to ride Bodacious with some protective face gear. It didn't do any good, because Bodacious still crushed Scott's eye socket even with the headgear.

The next day Bodacious was retired from the rodeo arena. Bodacious was a real star of rodeo being the first bull to have his own agent and merchandise line.

Bodacious died May 16, 2000 from kidney failure. His legend will certainly never die.

Guide Note: I got a chance to see this bull in person while he was still on the circuit, and when I saw him all I could do was be thankful that I decided to go into bareback riding.

rodeo.about.com



To: Alan Smithee who wrote (30824)3/14/2005 4:25:01 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 90947
 
SURE, but YOU could die a looooooong sloooow paiiiinful death of any number of things. I bet that bull rider hardly felt a thing!



To: Alan Smithee who wrote (30824)3/14/2005 5:26:06 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 90947
 
Lies. d&&ned lies, and Granny.

siliconinvestor.com

Let's see...

Janet [Jackson] now claims she did not know of the abuse at the time.

She also claims she was pressured into making a show of support for Jackson.

But the Arvizo family was also caught on film strongly denying any Jackson wrongdoing.

"There were tears, they were holding hands, they were talking about Jesus and God and Michael as the ultimate father figure," claimed videographer Christian Robinson on ABC last year.

Robinson says he spent two years recording Michael Jackson and those who made it into the pop star's inner circle.

Robinson claims the alleged victim, his brother, his sister and his mother all said Jackson did nothing wrong.

"Yeah. I asked. And they answered, and they were very up front and they, of course, said absolutely not," said Robinson. "All of them, every single one," he said.

"And just to clarify that even a little bit more, during this interview I told them to speak truthfully probably more than 30 times. I kept on reminding them, I'm like I want you guys to tell the truth," Robinson explained.

drudgereport.com
Now all that was on 20/20 recently. Are they part of Fox? Gee, I thought they were ABC.

Or does ANYTHING that does not fit her political agenda qualify as right wing extremist? Do the facts matter? Or is that a stupid question?

I've seem Fox's coverage of Jackson. If anything, they could be cited as a reason he couldn't get a fair trial anywhere they have a station. They give a clear implication of guilt.

Here's Geraldo (for what his opinion is worth in this matter):
Geraldo, interviewed late Tuesday night on top Los Angeles talker KFI, said: "Wait until you see the case against Jackson totally fall apart. Michael Jackson did not molest this kid. Period. The charges against him are fake.

"They have been created by grifters to cash in on a beleaguered and besieged guy. He is being railroaded here by a district attorney who is out of control, who is about to retire."

drudgereportarchives.com
Is he out to get Jackson too? Or could there be conflicting testimony and motives in the case?

More Gerlado:
"Once you get past the packaging," Rivera told Storm, "Michael is a very normal person. And to see him with his children -- we spent the whole day together. It was Michael, me and the three kids. The 5-year-old and 6-year-old and the toddler. He's negotiating between the Disney Channel and the Nickelodeon channel, between Fruit Loops and Cheerios. 'Let me change the diaper. Watch the stairs.' It's so absolutely typical of the dad trying to herd the kittens, as I have often been in that situation.

"If people would (just) give hem a chance. ...Michael Jackson is weirdly packaged, but inside, I think, there beats the heart of a normal man."
cbsnews.com
I guess he must be a prejudiced hypocritical right wing extremist too.

Oh, that was on See-BS.

Here's Fox News:
'Kidnapped' by Michael Jackson
Thursday, February 10, 2005
By Roger Friedman
February 10, 2005

Jacko 'Kidnap' Victims Lived It Up

Yesterday there were reports that Michael Jackson's band of "kidnappers" had held a mother and her three kids (two sons and a daughter) "hostage" at the Country Inn and Suites in Calabasas, Calif., in Feb. 2003.

Calabasas is a beautiful, verdant suburb of Los Angeles, replete with million-dollar homes and gated communities. It's not exactly a back alley in South Central.

Several weeks after their expulsion from Neverland and Jackson's world, the family (the one at the heart of the current Jackson child-molestation case) told a lawyer that the elder son, 13, had been molested by Jackson and that he had also held the family hostage.

Prosecutors may have trouble with this episode if they ask the mother or kids exactly what they did during their "hostage" ordeal.

I have seen receipts that show that the family had a telephone in their hotel room and used it constantly during their five-night stay.

They also went to at least one movie at the Calabasas Edwards Cineplex 6, ate ice cream at a Cold Stone Creamery and had several meals at an Outback Steak House.

They walked to all these places, during which time any of the four family members could have asked for help if they were in trouble.

"The mother loved Outback and wanted to eat there all the time," my source says.

She also patronized Anchor Blue (a chain store) and shopped almost continuously at stores such as Robinson-May, Banana Republic, Wilson's Leather and Pacific Sunwear.

She may have also scored a hostage-drama first when she got a manicure and pedicure for herself and her teenage daughter (total cost: $51) before dining at Panda Express.

The Calabasas Country Inn adventure took place between Feb. 25 and March 2, 2003, far from Neverland and Michael Jackson.

This would certainly cut almost a week out of District Attorney Tom Sneddon's timeline, which has Jackson allegedly molesting the then-13-year-old boy between Feb. 20 and March 10 of that year.

Why did the family go to Calabasas in the first place?

After the boys were featured in the Martin Bashir documentary "Living With Michael Jackson," the family experienced a firestorm of bad publicity.

For two weeks the foursome stayed with Jackson behind the gates of Neverland, safely away from prying eyes. During that time, the mother evidently quarreled with Jackson's then-manager Dieter Wiesner.

She was incensed that her kids were featured in the Bashir piece without her signing a release, and angry that they were never paid for it. She wanted some kind of remuneration.

She told Jackson she wanted him to buy her an apartment in Solvang, which is near Neverland and far from the grubby East Los Angeles flat the family had abandoned.

But Jackson had a different idea.

My source says that he preferred to have the whole family leave, and asked his videographer Marc Schaffel to take the mother hunting for apartments closer to L.A.

Schaffel, who still has never met the mother or the children, assigned Frank Tyson and Vincent Amen, two slightly built and amiable 22-year-olds, to chauffeur them around and buy them whatever they needed.

(As far as anyone knows, no complaint or accusation has been filed alleging that either of these men carried a weapon of any kind — just a charge card.)

According to the meticulous receipts kept during the adventure, most of the week was spent outside the hotel.

The receipts show the group moved constantly during the day, and that real-estate hunting was mixed with eating and shopping, activities not generally associated with kidnapping.

But even confinement wouldn't have been so bad. Room 300 of the Country Inn, where the family stayed, is a duplex with two bedrooms, a loft and a kitchen. It also had a big-screen TV, on which family members watched three pay-for-view movies.

While there, the mother made more than a dozen calls to her children's school, five to her parents and others to her boyfriend (a U.S. Army major who worked in Westwood, about 30 minutes away).

They were not short calls, either. Several of them — all to the L.A. area — cost $24 or more, with one hitting the $46 mark.

Presumably, if the mother had mentioned that she and the children were being held hostage or against their will, someone might have alerted the authorities.

The family's schedule was a tight one during their "kidnapping."

On the afternoon of March 1, for example, the day consisted of a meal at 4 p.m. at Johnny Rockets ($33), followed by a 5:14 p.m. stop at Anchor Blue to buy knit tops (two for $24).

Later, a 5:55 p.m. snack stop at the Topanga Canyon Mall (coffee, water, Snapple) was followed by a 6:40 p.m. appearance at Baskin-Robbins ($9).

And at 7 p.m., the mother and her kids took in the movie "Old School" at the theater across from the hotel, racking up $32 in concessions. They topped the night off with another visit to Johnny Rockets ($26).

Jackson’s lawyers will try to portray him as trying to relocate the family to be rid of them, paying through the nose all the way. How else to explain a $415 charge at Banana Republic on Feb. 26, the same day the mother also spent $454 on Jockey underwear and $450 at the Jeans Outlet?

On that night, the family also managed to dine for $175 at the Black Angus Restaurant in Woodland Hills, before they were "forced" in a "conspiracy" to return to their plush digs.

The family — which at the time had made no allegations against Jackson and considered him their friend and "daddy" — was brought to Calabasas for a few days to do errands in Los Angeles.

The charges were made to a credit card belonging to Schaffel, and are clearly evidenced on credit-card bills, which may be significant.

"It's not like they used cash for a stealth mission," my source continued.

The family had two missions during its stay in the Los Angeles area. One was apartment hunting. The other was procuring passports for a trip to Brazil.

The prosecution will probably claim in its case that Schaffel and his team were going to spirit the family to Brazil to keep them there against their will.

But my sources say the family was keen to go on a short vacation out of the country, where the mother would be far from journalists' questions about the Bashir documentary, and that the mother could have easily vetoed the trip by simply saying no.

And her boyfriend (who is now her husband) could have called the police if he thought something was wrong. He did not.

Apparently, once they got to the passport office, the mother cut a long line, declaring, "Don't you know who we are? We're friends of Michael Jackson!"

foxnews.com
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So, let's see, if you try to stick to provable facts, you're "strong supporters of Jackson". They only way to avoid that label is yell "HANG THE SOB!"

NOTE: Moi? I suspect he's guilty. Part of the reason is he bought of that previous civil suit. Why didn't he let it go to trial and prove his innocence if he was innocent?