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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (224039)3/15/2005 10:22:45 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1572704
 
I think the British were largely responsible for this state of affairs.

You think the British are more responsible than the Israelis?

The Arabs are not going to get that land back. It is too late for that. War should be unthinkable. There has to be a compromise.

I agree. The fair and just thing (to me) seems to be to make one democratic state which is composed of the geographies of Israel, West Bank and Gaza, and its citizens would be Israelis, Palestinian refugees, and perhaps any Muslim that wanted to immigrate there for the next ten year (to make up for the Israeli policy of granting citizenship to any Jew over the past 50 years), and give them all one vote, and also implement some form of property reclamation panel for the Palestinian refugees (similar to the German group that is returning property stolen from the Jews in WW2).

It'll never happen, but that seems the most just compromise to me.

I have a lot of sympathies for the Palestinians in the area. The realities are the Western World will not let the Jewish people in Israel be harmed - especially after what they have gone through in the early part of the past century.

I think you are confusing the Western world with the USA. Europe tends to be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli when it comes to these things.

On the other hand, the Arab world owe it to themselves to clean up their act, get up to speed, and take care of their own people. Israel is not their only problem. There is a lot more they can do beside going to war with Israel.

Agreed, but that doesn't justify external support for Israel at the expense of Palestinians.

How would you feel if the UN proprosed that Indiana should suddenly become a homeland nation for American Indians (because of the terrible things that have been done to them over the past 500 years), and the entire UN voted to return Indiana (the American Indians ancestral homeland) to them, and it won unanimous approval by every country except for those that neighbor Indiana (1, the US), and then there was a war and the American Indians won and the US citizens of Indiana that fled were never allowed back to Indiana, and there was never ending war between the US and the new American Indian nation which we formerly called Indiana.

The analogy with the founding of Israel is not all that far off from that. Would you side with the American Indians and the UN against the USA in that battle?