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To: greenspirit who wrote (104467)	3/15/2005 6:21:29 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793670

It's happening, do we dare speak of it openly yet? There will be some downside, and the MSM will jump on it with an "ahah!", when it happens. But it is great news now. Too bad "41" didn't understand the magnitude of the fall of the Soviet Empire when it happened. I think "43" does. I feel especially happy for those who are in the service right now. They spend their whole life hoping to be involved with a climatic successful moment in American history, and most aren't. This generation is. The "blood sweat and tears," of the last three + years have paid off, and they can see it.

To: greenspirit who wrote (104467)	3/17/2005 12:36:20 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793670

Have you heard anything? SUBMARINES: USS San Francisco's Next Victim strategypage.com March 16, 2005: The American submarine, USS San Francisco, is still undergoing temporary repairs at Guam, before it returns to the United States, under its own power, for some $100 million dollars of work to repair the damage received during a underwater collision in January. The San Francisco had undergone a $200 million overhaul (and nuclear refueling) three years ago. Assigning the blame is becoming an interesting exercise in how bureaucracies operate. Apparently a satellite ocean mapping project had spotted the sea mount, which the San Francisco hit, several years ago. But the navy never updated its charts. Whoever failed to get the charts updated would appear to be at fault. It’s long been known that nuclear subs, operating at their normal depths, were in danger because so much of the open oceans had not been properly mapped. This was an accepted risk. But it appears the navy may hang the blame on the San Francisco’s officers. They would be blamed for not taking more frequent depth soundings, and not proceeding more slowly, in an area that had not been definitively mapped. It’s easier to pin it on the ships officers, as they are of much lower rank than the navy official with responsibility to get the maps updated.