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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (1421)	3/17/2005 8:49:02 AM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9838

How does all that blather justify the use of torture on folks not known to be complicit in any terrorist action? Then keep in mind that interrogation experts say that intelligence gathered from someone who is being tortured is unreliable. Then add to that the fact that torture is morally wrong. Three strikes and you're out. If it's such a good idea...why don't we torture Saddam for all the info? Orca

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (1421)	3/17/2005 9:09:36 AM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9838

Trouble with this case is that it has become a political football. The Governor is pandering to the right to life and has lost all sense of morality. This poor woman is brain dead or so the Doctors have said. And the expect stem cell research to bring her back. We don't have stem cell research. That idea was squelched, wasn't' it ? The legislators meeting to rewrite the rules.. Too much.. I feel so sorry for the woman. She is just a political football and her rights are being abused.. imho.

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (1421)	3/17/2005 4:21:07 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9838

Brian, Here in Oregon, we voted in two initiatives to have the right to die with dignity. And we very much resent the US A.G. attempting to overturn the will of the people. So, I'm probably on the opposite side of the fence from you on the Schiavo situation. I find that it is beyond bizarre that nutcases argue to keep this woman intubated and alive in her tragic vegetative state. The mistake made was that she didn't establish a living trust defining the degree of medical intervention she preferred after all hope of return to a normal life faded away.

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (1421)	3/19/2005 2:37:58 AM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9838

I have to say that in this case where person does not leave instructions for the family on what to do in the case they enter a brain dead state, that it makes a very difficult situation for the survivors. Personally I have not given my family any instructions either...though I see from some of the responses on this board that many people should definitely let their families know of their wishes before it's too late. What I don't understand in this case is that you have the parents that are for keeping thier daughter alive, and the spouse that says her wishes are to die. He's also the one that is providing for her care. If you knew that your spouse would not want to go on every day shitting in a diaper and not know what or where or who they are...it might make sense to pull the plug. In this case I think that the husband should pass off the responsibility to the parents to take care of their daughter...because they want to do it...and they have hope that she will be rehabilitated. If I was the husband, I would say that Teri wants to die...but you want her to live...and if she can be rehabilitated some day, then it will be a miracle. But miracles are not attended by the meek...you must be bold...so Mom...Dad...take your daughter and provide the care you see fit...and let's pray for a miracle that she may rejoin us. Orca