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To: ManyMoose who wrote (347)3/17/2005 7:13:56 PM
From: Neeka  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 725
 
That whole post was quite a mouthful Clint.

What the Bleep explores the possibility of different dimentions. For instance.......scientists have witnessed and photographed one object in two different places at the same time as well as the common occurrence of matter within atoms that disappear and reappear on a continuing basis. The question is raised: where does that matter go and where does it reappear from?

Also explained definitively, and as an example, that when columbus arrived in the new world the Indians on shore could not see the ships because they did not have a concept of what they looked like. They could see ripples in the water, but it took a few days of concentrated effort by the village Shaman to finally see the ships off shore.

One of the more fascinating aspects of the movie was the experiments with water. Rather simple, but amazing. A Japanese scientist named Dr. Emoto filled beakers with water and labeled each with an emotional saying, like Love and Gratitude, or You make me Sick....ect. What has put Dr. Emoto at the forefront of the study of water is his proof that thoughts and feelings affect physical reality.

whatthebleep.com

The explanation of and visual animations helped me understand a bit more about how thoughts and emotions affect our physical brain and the consequences of these "addictions."

Anyway......I've done my duty and explained a little about this interesting and lively movie. Give it a look if you get the time in between your busy schedule of producing, directing and acting in movies. -gg-

;) M



To: ManyMoose who wrote (347)3/21/2005 10:46:36 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 725
 
OT

Ultimately, it's 0.1 x 0.1 x 0.1 until the likelihood of ALL conditions being together at once, as they are on earth, is so remote that it defeats even Sagan's Billions.

Maybe for life being likely to be near us, esp. civilization near us, but I'm just about sure there is life out there somewhere. Not only do you have about 100 billion stars in our galaxy and maybe 200 billion galaxies. Assuming our galaxy is twice as big than average and you still get 10,000 billion billion stars.

Go to activemind.com

for the "Drake equasion".

Choose 100bil for stars in our galaxy. Be pessimistic about the other choices. Now multiply the answer by 100 billion or so to get civilizations in the universe.

If I assume 1% of stars have planets (very unlikely) IMO

.33 planets per star with planets that are able to sustain life (its the lowest choice, I'll make the next figure lower to compensate)

Set the percentage of those planets where life evolves to .01%.

The fraction of those that have inteligent life to .01%

The fraction of those that communicate to 1%

and "the fraction of the planet's life during which the communicating civilizations survives" to 1,000 years.

Than muliply by 100 billion to account for all the galaxies and you get over 3 million currently communicating civilizations.

Personally I think a lot of those numbers are much too pesimistic. Personally I think there are at least thousands of civlizations in our galaxy alone.

Tim