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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (224970)	3/19/2005 10:22:12 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 1571782

"steal ("borrow") the money from the social security trust and squander it on wars with very large negative return (ie Iraq)." Very true, but incomplete! According Stauffer, an economist lecturing at the US War College, American taxpayers have spent some $1.6 TRILLION for the benefit of the state of Israel from 1973 through 2002. His estimates did not include the cost of the Iraq War or the $17 billion given to Israel by Bush/Congress in 2003 ($4 billion outright, $3 billion in energy guarantees, and $10 billion in guaranteed loans which are always later forgiven by Congress.) In reality, the Social Security Trust Fund has been borrowed/stolen to finance the Zionist/Jewish theological project in the Middle East.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (224970)	3/19/2005 10:45:36 AM
From: 10K a day	Respond to of 1571782

exactly. thats a good way to blow up the money the FED printed. take it from SS and burn it up on wars not declared by congress. BRILLIANT! it's kind of like the TECH bubble of 2000....Print the money and launder it in the stock market....then when it all blows up we start over printing money again.... The FED has u gamed so bad u don't know what hit u....Congress eats it up like a bunch of PIGS eating little ham sandwiches ... the FED figured out the game first. and Wall street is now teaching it to Bush and Co. Some day the rest of the world will pick up their marbles and decide to print their own currency. they don't need us.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (224970)	3/19/2005 10:53:39 AM
From: 10K a day	Respond to of 1571782

I think this guy says it very well. Message 21148847

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (224970)	3/19/2005 11:34:46 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571782

>> Put the contributions to SS in a lock box. If you "put the contributions in a lock box", and don't lend the trust money out, how EXACTLY do you expect it to generate investment income? DO you think SS would be more viable if instead of earning 3% it was earning NOTHING? Duh.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (224970)	3/19/2005 11:50:09 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571782

re: Brooks is making waves out of a few ripples. I agree with regard to SS. Medicare is a different and more complex issue, and that's why nobody is talking about it. It's a serious problem on both rising cost per transaction and the rising number of transactions as the boomers retire. SS is easy, Medicare is tough. I agree with the second wave... our politicians (and a percentage of the public) are increasingly polarized. I don't see many in Washington that is solutions oriented, they are all partisan/ideology oriented. When pragmatism gives way to ideology we always get in trouble. I also think there is a third wave; out budget and current accounts deficit limit our options. At present levels they are extremely dangerous, we just can't risk current or higher debt. The folks that think we are omnipotent, that we can spend on foreign wars and pork at home, and still have a safety net for our citizens are in for a rude awakening. John