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To: cosmicforce who wrote (99085)	3/21/2005 4:14:35 PM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

I don't think I ever said we were perfect. But if we're so evil that it violates your core values and beliefs you should move. I'd never stay in a place that I thought so little of

To: cosmicforce who wrote (99085)	3/21/2005 9:36:56 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I don't think we need to be beating ourselves up over the fact that the US once threw its weight around in central and south America. As bad as US behavior was at the time, the US also kept the European powers mostly out of the western hemisphere. If those powers had treated latin America as they did Africa, I expect latin America would have been much worse off. Read any history of Central America and get back to me. Hint: Look at the Platt Amendment of 1901, the false basis of the Spanish American war, and 1936 Cuba elections and the influence of the United States in undermining POPULAR elections in independent countries like Costa Rica (having been founded as an independent country BEFORE the US). ...... When you tire of that, look at the US role in the Philipine Islands. Yes, we could say our hands would have been cleaner if we'd set the Phillipines free immediately after the S-A war. But we shouldn't pretend the Filipinos would have stayed free. The Japanese would have moved in and ruled the Phillipines much more ruthlessely than Americans did. Or how we provoked Japan in the late 1920's so they could become our enemy in WWII. Oh, good grief. You think there was an evil American conspiracy all the way back in the '20's to start WWII? Japan was our enemy in WWII because they wanted to build a mightly Japanese empire and we were in their way. I think it would have been pretty difficult to avoid that. But if we had been successful in avoiding becoming an enemy of Japan, the Japanese would have likely been successful in building their east Asian empire at a massive cost in Chinese (and other Asian) lives. More relevant to today than the things you mentioned are that having won WWII the US set the Phillipines free and fostered the development of a peaceful democratic government in Japan.