To: Amy J who wrote (28606 ) 3/24/2005 2:08:44 AM From: shades Respond to of 306849 Amy first off, take a chill pill lady! You have personalized a silly humurous jest as an attack on you and grace it seems - chill out! I am blaming no individual with anything, I was merely trying to be funny when my french and nascar friends bitch about cultural evaporation or blending and loss of entitlements and longer working hours - an effect that can be directly linked to fewer developed nations sustaining their births. You have a remarkable ability to attack and insult me for making a joke on a play off of some of another posters words - what is eating at you lady? As for the flaw in my nearsighted thinking - you are going to tell me that less women having children in certain nations is not a real problem as other posters have put to you - time to wake up lady and smell the coffee! As for my search for women, I said in the first post I gave up on that careeer obsessed french girl a long time ago. If it is a choice between children and family, or self improvement and self reliance and advancing career - that person won't ever make a good teammember in a growing family. Why do you think hollywood stars divorce so much? They often can't sacrifice career to devote to family. Certainly you and your husband have had to sacrifice to make your marriage work as Grace has admitted, it takes sacrifice of personal goals to make things last sometimes. My talk was not hate filled, it was meant to be a silly humorous jest - what is wrong with you that you internalize and attack and bring negativity to messages not even directed at you? Is that how you want your kids to go through life - internalizing jokes and silly humor as hate and then to engage in personal attacks of thier own? As for men that don't want children, it has been my experience in tampa that most men do once they get financial security, especially sons to go fishing with in the great gulf of mexico we have here - but the women say they can't take the time from work and daily stress to bear the children and birth them. A task mother nature has solely burdened them with for I have never seen a man birth a child. I am sorry you took what is humorous silly jesting of which I have said it was and which describes my postings since 1997 here on SI as something you wish to personalize and attack me for when I did not even respond to you. I did not attack grace, I asked the question that even though not having kids is a good personal choice (see amy I was agreeing with the woman that said no from a personal standpoint) that this may be a bad choice for the nation as a whole. Your negativity and attacks are disgusting and I am sad you would lower yourself to such a level - I thought you were better than to bring yourself down to what a mere woman hating man would do? Hypocrite indeed! BWAHAH! I never advocated raping a man, I said what did god command and did he offer punishment for disobeying your mate and having kids - I don't know the answer - you are probably more versed in the bible because of all those times you took your kids to church than I am. BWAHA! For the record I am siding with george carlin and joe pesci with the baseball bat as the reality I believe in. Grow up Amy, life is too short too take things so seriously and internalize so much hate and negativity that you spread it to others, don't worry lady, be happy. Cheers