To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (1890 ) 3/24/2005 1:42:00 PM From: Rock_nj Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9838 Tyranny in those countries too. Why would I be any happier? Tyranny of the majority (i.e. democracy) and just plain tyranny are both tyranical, one is not necessarily better than the other. In the U.S. it's more like a corporate tyranny, and more recently a religious one, that forces its way of life and worldview on the broader population via manipulation of the suppossedly freely elected government. The problem really is government itself. Man, joining together in one form or another to force his view on the broader masses. It doesn't matter what form it takes. As I grow older, I grow to understand the Libertarian point of view much better. I'm definitely with the Libertarians on issues like legalized drugs (our current system is insane and promotes violence) and personal liberty. I'm not so thrilled with their free-market philosophy, it's not that I don't like the free-market, I just think there are times when govt. can make a positive difference like in the case of social security. Also, it is dishonest to call our system free-market anyway, it's so damn bastardized by crony-capitialism, pork-barrel spending, tax breaks and other such shenanigans that it has evolved into something entirely new and different than a true free-market (somebody should coin a name for it). It's a corporatized market, where might makes right. I'll tell you two things both China and Cuba have going over the U.S.: 1. They reinvest the fruits of their labor in building better societies, whereas the U.S. invests those fruits in expanding the wealth of the wealthiest amongst us with their expensive military expeditures (far more than any other country on earth) and plans for military and economic empire. 2. They don't suffer from a blatantly imperialist foreign policy. Cuba, certainly not. China, to a small degree, but I doubt it so much a part of their culture as it is in the U.S.