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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (226264)	3/25/2005 4:01:01 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575535

Doesn't make sense unless they are afraid of being called racist. Remember those sports reporters work for liberal Rags and that could cost them their job

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (226264)	3/26/2005 3:05:42 AM
From: SilentZ	Respond to of 1575535

> Longnshort, I wonder why some would vote for Barry but not for Big Mac. If they aren't voting for McGwire because of steroids, why are they voting for Barry "Duh, I didn't know they were steroids" Bonds? I'll tell you exactly why... let's pretend neither of these guys was on steroids and take their skills down a notch. Barry still probably hits well over 500 home runs for his career (for a non-steroidal player not named Dave Kingman, over 500 HRs is an instant Hall-of-Fame credential), he's still a guy who can hit .350 in any given season, still had seasons in the "30-30 Club" and still probably the top fielding left fielder to ever play the game. McGwire probably wouldn't have hit more than about 420 homers and never was all that great at any other aspect of the game. Barry Bonds has been known for plenty more in the game than his strength; Mark McGwire not so. On steroids, Bonds is known as one of the top three position players ever to play the game... you'd never put McGwire anywhere near that conversation. It's definitely fair, IMO. -Z

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (226264)	3/29/2005 4:37:11 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1575535

I wonder why some would vote for Barry but not for Big Mac. The only thing I can think of is that Barry has better non-power related stats than McGuire. Presumably these stats didn't benefit as much as the home run stat did from steroids. Or maybe you could look at it as if they are giving "points" for achievement in baseball, and taking away points for steroid use. Maybe Bonds has more points to start with so he gets the HoF votes even after the subtraction for steroids. Tim