To: Elroy who wrote (226692 ) 3/28/2005 9:04:13 AM From: RetiredNow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573092 There is not a war going on in Iraq today; rather, their is a guerilla insurgency who's only legitimacy is provided by.......us. When Osama declared war on the U.S. in the early 90's, no one took him seriously either. That is until 9/11. Zarqawi has declared war on us and the fledgling Iraqi government. I wouldn't say that this is just an insurgency. What you are implying is that if we leave, the insurgency will go away and that is naive. It will not go away until either they are wipe out or until they have power over all of Iraq. So we have to stay until the Iraqis can stand on their own two feet. Because sooner is better than later (in my opinion), and it may be 4-5-6 DECADES before them guerillas give up, if ever. It's like the US deciding to police Northern Ireland until it goes two years without a terrorist attack, ie., a retarded idea. That would be a retarded idea, but that is not what I'm suggesting. Instead, I think we should stay until we feel comfortable that the Iraqis can take care of themselves. We shouldn't leave a moment sooner. The whole idea was to remove Saddam and provide the Iraqis with the opportunity to be a democratic society. That goal is accomplished. It's time to leave the country and let the new government establish legitimacy themselves. First, the goal wasn't to have an election and then run. It was to ensure a functional Democratic government was put in place and that it is capable of staying in power after we left. Neither he first nor the second part of that goal has been accomplished. The current government is an interrim gov't whose only mandate is to write a constitution and then prepare for general elections. In the mean time, we are also trying to get viable Iraqi forces trained that can protect the people and the government when it gets elected. So there is alot more work to do. I believe they are trying to finish the constitution this year with Jan 1996 general elections as a target. We should be able to start a gradual drawdown of toops by then. If not, then I'll be just as worried as you are now.