To: energyplay who wrote (61332 ) 3/28/2005 4:34:51 PM From: marcos Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559 Yes, early 1860s in the South, i thought of that ... the US ended up considerably stronger economically and militarily at the end of that conflict, enough to make the neighbours worry about resumption of invasions [this is what stimulated confederation for Canada, and helped Juárez to reduce power of the church] .... so it was not near the same overall punch received by great areas of Europe ... there was total war in areas, but they were localised, small in relation to the whole .... also, invasion did not come from sources considered external ... although sure, the invadees would have seen it that way, still it is not now regarded as such Here in BC we have immigrants from all the troubled areas you do, likely in the same proportions more or less ... lots and lots of chinese, one of my wife's best friends is chinese, raised in both Taiwan and the Filipines, she has tales of considerable family struggle at times ..... so alright, we have here local experience with such troubles, but that experience is increasingly long ago, and was always far away ... 'it can't happen here', eh .... the same is true of Canada as of the US, we haven't been invaded since 1812-14 and we've never lost a war, not so in México where the memory of 1848 is vivid, and where there have been periods of great fear of a repeat ... so i think this all goes to attitude towards the relative desirability of war, and when combined with that famous Overwhelming Firepower, can be regarded by those who have taken serious punches as potentially deadly, open to abuse For euros, a major part of understanding US attitudes is realising that they have never suffered anything near the devastation that did Europe .... there are other factors to the situation of course, but that's a big one .... cheers