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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106441)	3/28/2005 6:22:20 PM
From: SirWalterRalegh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793757

The saddest thing about the Schiavo case is that you don't have to think badly of anybody, to see how it came about With reference to Michael.... I would like to see an accounting of the ~$1,000,000. that he received in a judgement that I think was a phony doctor liability case. In addition it has been reported that, if inclined, he could make in excess of $5million if she he dead. Books, movies, speaking engagements etc.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106441)	3/28/2005 10:53:16 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Respond to of 793757

Nadine - killing someone by torture is nothing to be sympathetic for. Think about it - just imagine some pictures of Terri on TV now - do you think public opinion might change? If my daughter's husband was off with another woman and killing my daughter I would be distraught with anger. IMO he has forfeited any claim to influence the fate Terri. If there is something called a Common Law Marriage - then there should be Common Law Divorce!

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106441)	3/29/2005 7:15:30 AM
From: JDN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793757

I believe THIS is the REAL REASON Terri is dying. jdn 1. Schindlers Were Outgunned by Lawyers Early In case you were wondering, with so many facts in dispute about the Terri Schiavo case, the answer is relatively clear: The Schindlers, well-intentioned as they have been, were outgunned in the early legal fight that sealed their daughter's fate. The early legal maneuvering created "facts" that are now beyond dispute in higher courts. One is the unbelievable claim by Michael Schiavo that Terri wanted to be starved and dehydrated to death. One Florida attorney told the story on Steve Sailer's Web blog (www.isteve.com). Here's what the lawyer wrote: "I have been following the case for years. Something that interests me about the Terri Schiavo case, and that doesn't seem to have gotten much media attention: The whole case rests on the fact that the Schindlers (Terri's parents) were totally outlawyered by the husband (Michael Schiavo) at the trial court level. "This happened because, in addition to getting a $750K judgment for Terri's medical care, Michael Schiavo individually got a $300K award of damages for loss of consortium, which gave him the money to hire a top-notch lawyer to represent him on the right-to-die claim. He hired George Felos, who specializes in this area and litigated one of the landmark right-to-die cases in Florida in the early '90s. "By contrast, the Schindlers had trouble even finding a lawyer who would take their case since there was no money in it. Finally they found an inexperienced lawyer who agreed to take it partly out of sympathy for them, but she had almost no resources to work with and no experience in this area of the law. She didn't even depose Michael Schiavo's siblings, who were key witnesses at the trial that decided whether Terri would have wanted to be kept alive. Not surprisingly, Felos steamrollered her. "The parents obviously had no idea what they were up against until it was too late. It was only after the trial that they started going around to religious and right-to-life groups to tell their story. These organizations were very supportive, but by that point their options were already limited because the trial judge had entered a judgment finding that Terri Schiavo would not have wanted to live. "This fact is of crucial importance -- and it's one often not fully appreciated by the media, who like to focus on the drama of cases going to the big, powerful appeals courts: Once a trial court enters a judgment into the record, that judgment's findings become THE FACTS of the case, and can only be overturned if the fact finder (in this case, the judge) acted capriciously (i.e., reached a conclusion that had essentially no basis in fact). "In this case, the trial judge simply chose to believe Michael Schiavo's version of the facts over the Schindlers'. Since there was evidence to support his conclusion (in the form of testimony from Michael Schiavo's siblings), it became nearly impossible for the Schindlers to overturn it. The judges who considered the case after the trial-level proceeding could make decisions only on narrow questions of law. They had no room to ask, "Hey, wait a minute, would she really want to die?" That "fact" had already been decided. "In essence, the finding that Terri Schiavo would want to die came down to the subjective opinion of one overworked trial judge who was confronted by a very sharp, experienced right-to-die attorney on one side and a young, quasi-pro bono lawyer on the other. "Nothing unusual about this, of course. It's the kind of thing that happens all the time. But it's an interesting point to keep in mind when you read that the Schiavo case has been litigated for years and has been reviewed by dozens of judges ... yadda yadda yadda. "By the way, I'm guessing that George Felos is probably quite happy to work the Schiavo case for free at this point since it's making him one of the most famous right-to-kill -- I mean right-to-die -- lawyers in the country. His BlackBerry has probably melted down by now, what with all the messages from the hurry-up-and-die adult children you've been blogging about."