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To: combjelly who wrote (226844)	3/29/2005 12:13:53 AM
From: Dan B.	Respond to of 1573411

I only disagree here, Re: " triggered by random firings, a human can interpret these events as having some causation. When, in fact, there is none." I think her autonomical swallowing has nothing to do with random firings. The causation would be the presence of saliva, or jello perhaps. She perhaps certainly can't swallow willfully, anymore than she can control her vocalizations beyond increasing them in the presence of family and friends (according to testimony..again, this NOT being random, but likely caused by the presence of stimuli such as familiar people) and including inflections in them (which I've heard for myself from an at least once aired video with sound). None of this proves she has no awareness of herself, or memories to ponder. Dan B.

To: combjelly who wrote (226844)	3/29/2005 1:26:22 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573411

"I have heard more than one MD say she can't swallow......" Umm, Ted, swallowing saliva is a basic, brain stem function. What the MDs are talking about is that she can't sequence between chewing, if that is stimulated, and swallowing what she chewed. If the cortex is gone, all that exist is basic functions. Moving from one state, like chewing, is not followed by another state, like swallowing. The sequencer is gone. That is what the MDs are talking about, and that is why this is a controversy at all. Because fairly complex events are handled at a low level, and can be triggered by random firings, a human can interpret these events as having some causation. When, in fact, there is none. Obviously, I am not a medical person. That's why I rely on what medical people are saying. Your explanation makes sense. Thanks. ted