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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3150)	3/30/2005 11:34:15 PM
From: gregor	Respond to of 5569

I believe in I Thessalonians Chapter 4 Paul is talking about the sleeping bodies, not the spiritual soul that when absent in the body is present with the Lord. vs.15 'for we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (greek phthano..to come before or first ) them which are asleep. This means that those in the grave will rise first and be caught up in the air with those who are asleep ( in the body...not the soul ) in Christ. vs. 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The way I see this is that our souls in death are awaiting in heaven our bodies or our new resurrected glorified bodies. When Christ leaves heaven to come down in the air he will bring with him all the saints who are with him in heaven to be reunited with their bodies that will be resurrected in the twinkling of an eye. Those in Christ who are living at the time will be translated along with those that Christ brings back with him and we will be given our glorified bodies. Praise to God. In Chap 2 vs 19 the at his coming I Thessalonians and also in Matthew 24:3 the greek term is parousia. Parousia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Christianity, Parousia means the presence of Christ. In the Greek language parousia means "presence," and in the ancient Greco-Roman world it referred to official visits by royalty. In all fairness to you the term is quite vague, but especially when used in terms of a royal visit. I see the picture of Christ stopping by for a visit not to set up residence.