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To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)3/31/2005 8:30:43 AM
From: CommanderCricket  Respond to of 206085
 
Dennis,

Gee - a super spike report from Goldman after the market sells off the E&P's 15% - 20% in March.

Couldn't they have waited until tomorrow for April Fools Day?

Gotta love the timing - Michael



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)3/31/2005 10:14:32 AM
From: t4texas  Respond to of 206085
 
good. the summary is china is the key to higher and higher oil prices, and until/unless china has a big demand drop the prices will keep moving up. it will be hard for the oil bears to make much money or get it right in the oil patch as long as the analysts keep coming out with upgrades such as this. i saw the cnbc people bemoaning these analysts at gs would not come on tv this morning, but i see here they have a conf. call in less than an hour.



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)3/31/2005 10:21:36 AM
From: t4texas  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 206085
 
reports like this make the energy bears feel like the tech bears back in 1999 and 2000. the volleyball gets tipped back up a lot before a point is scored.



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)3/31/2005 9:53:22 PM
From: Dennis Roth  Respond to of 206085
 
Goldman sees oil price 'super spike'
But others are skeptical $105 forecast is reasonable
By Padraic Cassidy, MarketWatch
Last Update: 2:54 PM ET March 31, 2005
marketwatch.com

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Oil prices have entered the early stages of a multi-year period of trading in which economic growth and rising demand could push oil to $105 per barrel, enough to meaningfully reduce energy consumption, Goldman Sachs analysts said Thursday.

"We believe oil markets may have entered the early stages of what we have referred to as a "super spike" period -- a multi-year trading band of oil prices high enough to meaningfully reduce energy consumption and recreate a spare capacity cushion only after which will lower energy prices return," said analyst Arjun Murti.

Murti said he's surprised by the strength in oil demand and economic growth, notably in the United States and China, even after a year in which the oil price has traded in a $40 to $50 range.

Goldman's previous "spike" high for oil was $80 a barrel. The brokerage also raised spot forecasts for WTI spot oil - West Texas Intermediate spot oil, the benchmark crude that trades daily on the New York Mercantile Exchange -- to $50 for 2005 and $55 for 2006. Its previous forecasts were $41 in 2005 and $40 in 2006.

The Thomson First Call consensus estimate is for $43 a barrel in 2005 and $40 a barrel in 2006.

The call, which implies a doubling of oil prices from their current level, sent crude back above $56 per barrel for the first time in more than a week. The contract for May delivery was last quoted up 2.6 percent at $55.40, having earlier touched a high of $56.10. See futures story.

Phil Flynn, senior market analyst at Alaron.com, said $105 oil is technically possible but not likely for at least 3 years and only if a major supply disruption, such as a halt to imports from Saudi Arabia, occurred.

"The timing of the report was conducive to the rally," Flynn said. "It's just another reason to be long. There's no doubt we're in a new bull market for crude oil." Hear audio interview.

John Kilduff, energy risk analyst Fimat USA, agreed that the $105 price assumes a major supply disruption in Saudi Arabia or a Venezuelan embargo on shipments to the U.S.

"I don't know how they get to that number, short of a significant supply disruption event occurring," he said.

"It's more reflective, to be fair, of the psychology of the energy market right now that there's going to be tremendous demand growth in the late third and the fourth quarter of this year. That's going to put the producers of crude oil in an extremely challenging position in terms of meeting that demand, and that's what is being priced in right now."

Analyst Kevin Kerr of Kerr Trading International said the Goldman call was irresponsible and "clearly an attempt to talk up the market on nothing more than hot air. Goldman has huge speculative energy positions and they have no interest in watching it go down right now."

Murti also said earnings consensus for oil and gas companies ought to grow by 21 percent and 35 percent, respectively in 2005 and 2006, as those stocks stand to outperform the broader market.

The return could be 80 percent if prices hit a super spike, he said. Murti did respond to a request for comment.

Murti recommends adding to positions in the oil sector "at current prices, on a pullback, or even after rallies," and raised 2005 and 2006 earnings estimates across the board.

His top picks in the sector continue to be Exxon Mobil (XOM: news, chart, profile) , Amerada Hess (AHC: news, chart, profile) , Bill Barrett Corp. (BBG: news, chart, profile) , Devon Energy (DVN: news, chart, profile) , EnCana Corp. (ECA: news, chart, profile) , Murphy Oil (MUR: news, chart, profile) , Newfield Exploration (NFX: news, chart, profile) , Pioneer Natural Resources (PXD: news, chart, profile) , Premcor (PCO: news, chart, profile) , Questar Corp. (STR: news, chart, profile) and Suncor Energy (SU: news, chart, profile)



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)4/11/2005 8:20:56 PM
From: Ed Ajootian  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 206085
 
Super Spike (GS) -- Finally got a chance to read their report and its really a shame that they gave it the title they did. Once you peel away the headline-grabbing hyperbole there is some damn good work in that piece. Everyone just stopped at the headlines and no one actually read what the guy had to say.

Most notable are Exhibits #5 & 6 and related discussion. Exhibit 5 shows the results of a multi-factor regression model built by GS last December, which predicts the near-month price of crude oil futures by looking at 4 variables: "long-dated" CL futures (i.e. > 60 months out), the spread between light and sour crude, DOE crude & products inventories, and the amount of net speculative length in the Nymex oil futures markets. This model has been extremely accurate at predicting the price of oil, even in the last 4 weeks. Over time it shows an R squared of 85%, which although I'm not a statistician, I believe is pretty impressive.

At Exhibit 6 they show the results of a model that just uses the level of DOE crude and products inventories in an attempt to predict oil prices. This one, while very reliable in the past, has shown to be highly unreliable recently, especially in the last 4 weeks. This model has an R squared of only 52%, which is barely better than a monkey throwing a dart I believe.

As to why the long-dated WTI futures prices are predictive, the report puts forth the theory that these prices are related to market perceptions of the present and future E&P cost structure. At Exhibit 7 they show a graph of E&P upstream costs from '96 to the present, interposed with a graph of the 60 month CL futures price. The 2 seem to move in sync.

So my takeaway from the above is that high finding costs are what is ultimately driving world oil prices, and unless and until these come down (an unlikely event IMO) we will continue to see high oil prices, and this is irrespective of the amount of oil inventories that the US may happen to have at any given point in time.

If anyone else has seen the report and would care to comment I'd welcome your thoughts. Also, if there are any statisticians in the joint could you give me a refresher on the significance of "R squared" when looking at a regression model. Thanks in advance.



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)11/18/2005 10:33:59 AM
From: Dennis Roth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206085
 
Are we there yet? Prospect of $100 oil
Longer-term bets based on high risk, depleting sources
By Myra P. Saefong, MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:06 AM ET Nov. 18, 2005
marketwatch.com

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- When it comes to the prospect of $100 oil prices, it's still a question of when, not if.

Earlier this year, speculation over a spike past $100 a barrel was fed by terrorist activities, severe weather and political and economic uncertainties. In April, Goldman Sachs even warned of a "super-spike" period that could push oil to $105 per barrel.

But by late August, around the time when crude-futures prices reached a record level near $71 a barrel, MarketWatch's editor-in-chief questioned whether Hurricane Katrina had helped mark the peak for oil. See David Callaway. marketwatch.com

And MarketWatch Columnist Tom Kilgore said a technical indicator may be suggesting an end to crude's uptrend. See Market Map. marketwatch.com

"The $100 a barrel was never going to be a near-term expectation without a cataclysmic terrorist attack on a significant oil infrastructure," said Jason Schenker, an economist at Wachovia Corp.

Indeed, that price scenario was "always an exaggeration of a low-probability event," said Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research.

When it comes down to it, traders must remember the reason crude reached record highs in late August. "There was a massive natural disaster that caused supply lines to shut down and we're still seeing the impact of," said Schenker. So "it would take something significantly greater than Katrina, Rita and Wilma combined" to get prices to $100.

Crude prices are down about 18% from their record high in Katrina's wake.

Even so, some analysts refuse to relinquish that triple-digit price, mainly because the world is depleting its oil reserves and there's never a shortage of price-supporting events.

"What ever happened to $100 crude? It just got postponed," said Agbeli Ameko, a managing partner at First Enercast Financial. "That is, at least until the next hurricane season or some geopolitical bombshell."

"In this 'peak-oil' and 'terror-premium' environment, the market will remain in reach of the $100 barrier," he said.

Risky access, depleting sources

Traders have been keeping a close watch on domestic and international supplies, but it's important to take a closer look at oil reserves and production to calculate just how much oil the world has left.


There's probably about 1 trillion barrels of oil left worldwide -- and 60% of that is in the Middle East, said Dan Hassey, a senior research analyst for Boca Raton, Fla.-based Gold & Energy Advisor.

"Supplies are so tight and demand is growing and unfortunately, a lot of the supplies we get are [from] some very unstable places including ourselves, as we learned in the last couple of summers of hurricanes," he said.

Of the world's total, Saudi Arabia holds 23% of the proved oil reserves, or about 263 billion barrels, according to a report from the Gold & Energy Advisor, which based some of its figures on an article in Barron's. A total of about 30% comes from Iran, Iraq and the United Arab Emirates.

Country Proved oil reserves (billion barrels) Share of world total 2003 oil production (billion barrels/year) Years to depletion
Saudi Arabia 263 23% 3.583 73
Iran 131 11% 1.4 93
Iraq 115 10% 0.490 234
United Arab Emirates 98 9% 0.919 107
Kuwait 97 8% 0.816 119
Venezuela 78 7% 1.09 72
Russian Federation 69 6% 3.11 22
Nigeria 34 3% 0.797 43
United States 31 3% 2.72 11
China 24 2% 1.239 19

Data: Barron's and Gold & Energy Advisor


The Gold & Energy Advisor estimates that based on Saudi Arabia's output of 3.6 billion barrels a year in 2003, the country has about 73 years left before depleting its oil reserves.

The U.S. has only about 11 years before depletion of its proved reserves, according to Gold & Energy Advisor.

Americans "take [oil] out of the ground much faster than anybody else of the major producers in the world ... and we're going through it very quickly," Hassey said.

Shifting power

With the U.S. running out of oil, "that means more pricing power to OPEC," which controls around 65% of the world's oil, said Hassey.

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries is an "oligopoly" -- it can control the supply it has and keep prices high, he said.

And "as people start to realize that we are drawing down our reserves, that is going to give more pricing power to OPEC," he added.

One of the big problems with that: many of the countries in the cartel have oil companies that are controlled by the government and that's the "least efficient, and probably more wasteful way to run an oil business," he said.

Two examples of government-run oil are Venezuela and Iran, where production is "erratic and declining," he noted.

Consumption ease?

Oil prices certainly won't see any significant relief from falling demand or alternative-energy sources.

True, the high price of oil is slowing demand right now, but investors tend to concentrate on U.S. demand -- which accounts for 25% of the world's oil, said Hassey.

Global demand is falling, but not as fast as U.S. demand, he said. See Commodities Corner on energy demand. marketwatch.com

At the same time, there are questions about whether alternative-energy sources will erode demand. See Commodities Corner on biofuels. marketwatch.com



But "I don't think we're going to have enough alternative energies at a good price that's globally distributed within the next two to five years before [the] next global expansion occurs," said Hassey.

There is "no really new alternative is on the horizon," said veteran commodities trader Kevin Kerr.

Given all that, "$100 oil is not that far off" -- in 2 to 30 months without a major terrorist act, and 6 to 12 months with a major terrorist attack, said Kerr, who also edits Global Resources Trader, a service of MarketWatch.

"The bottom line is, the light, sweet, easy-to-get/easy-to-refine oil is much harder to lay your hands on nowadays," he said, and that lack of light, sweet crude to refine "will most certainly drive prices higher overall."

So "for those asking 'are we there yet?' -- be patient. It probably won't happen in 2005, but 2006 or 2007 could be another story," First Enercast's Ameko said.

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Canada and its oil sands aren't in the table. Why?



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)3/29/2006 7:53:02 PM
From: Dennis Roth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206085
 
Happy Birthday SUPER SPIKE!

One year ago Goldman analysists Arjun Murti and Brian Singer made their headline grabbing $105 per bbl super spike call. See Message 21185072 for the original call.

For awhile, during the huricane disruptions, I thought they might luck out and look like geniuses. but we only got to $71 per bbl.
But there's alway this year and we're starting from a higher base. So they may look prescient yet, just a tad early.

In all fairness they didn't actually call for $105 per bbl, but a range of $50- $105 per bbl, so with that qualifier, they were right. This was up from thier previous super spike range of $50-$80 per bbl which, if they had left in place, they would have been righter. But they wouldn't have grabbed the headlines with a stand pat report. Nothing like $100 plus per bbl to get the press going. But I've been seeing
$100 per bbl predictions since 1973. If we live long enough we'll see it and they finally be right. But will it really mean anything 30 years late other than provoking a lot of articles like when the Dow broke 1,000 the first time?

Happy Birthday SUPER SPIKE!



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)4/6/2006 9:09:34 AM
From: Dennis Roth  Respond to of 206085
 
Oil prices edge closer to $100-a-barrel
ameinfo.com
Predictions of $100-a-barrel in 2006, Boone Pickens, head of Mesa Petroleum, has predicted that the $100 a barrel price will be reached by the end of 2006.



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)2/23/2007 12:29:31 PM
From: Dennis Roth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206085
 
First Pacific's Rodriguez Says Buy Drillers, Predicts $100 Oil
bloomberg.com
By Joe Carroll

Feb. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Robert Rodriguez, who oversees $10.7 billion at First Pacific Advisors LLC, is buying shares of oil drillers because he says crude will top $100 a barrel within a decade.

Rodriguez, whose FPA Capital Fund has nearly doubled the returns of the Standard & Poor's 500 Index over the past five years, said oil will rise because producers aren't finding new reserves fast enough to replace declining production from some of the world's biggest fields.

Output at Mexico's Cantarell field, the largest in the western hemisphere, slumped by 25 percent last year. Production from Kuwait's Burgan field, the biggest oil deposit outside Saudi Arabia, is also declining. Drillers such as Ensco International Inc. and Rowan Cos. will be in high demand as the hunt for new reserves intensifies, Rodriguez said.

``I'm bullish on oil and the oil drillers, partly because production from Cantarell has fallen off a cliff,'' Rodriguez, chief executive officer at Los Angeles-based First Pacific, said in a telephone interview. ``The trend for oil prices is higher. The era of low-cost energy is over.''

Rodriguez has 19 percent of the $2.1 billion FPA Capital Fund invested in oil and natural gas stocks, primarily companies that own and operate drilling rigs. About 40 percent of the fund is in cash because he says most stocks are too expensive relative to future estimated profits.

Biggest Holdings

Dallas-based Ensco, an oil driller that more than doubled its full-year profit last year, is Rodriguez's second-biggest holding, accounting for about 5 percent of the fund. He'd buy more of the shares if he wasn't already at the limit allowed under the fund's rules.

Trinity Industries Inc., a maker of railcars and barges, is the fund's third-largest investment. The Dallas company, which gets 12 percent of its sales from the energy industry, almost tripled net income last year to $230 million. The shares have doubled in the past two years.

Other energy-related stocks in the fund's top 15 include driller Patterson-UTI Energy Inc., oilfield-equipment maker National-Oilwell Varco Inc., and Houston-based oil and gas producer Rosetta Resources Inc. The fund's biggest holding is Avnet Inc., a Phoenix-based distributor of semiconductors.

``We're monitoring other oil and gas producers and we may up our stake in that area,'' Rodriguez said. He declined to name the companies under consideration.

FPA Capital Fund

The FPA Capital Fund, which has been closed to new investors since July 2004, returned an average of 14.2 percent annually over the past five years. That compared with a 7.6 percent annual return including dividends for the S&P 500.

The fund has risen 5.8 percent this year, versus 2.5 percent for the S&P 500.

Rodriguez is hoarding cash because he expects increasing oil-market volatility to spook rival fund managers into dumping shares that he can snatch up at a discount. Having a large cash position means he won't have to sell any stocks at a loss to free up funds for new investment opportunities.

``Most fund managers are gutless wonders,'' said Rodriguez, 58. ``Volatility is your friend if you use it appropriately.'' New York crude oil futures touched a record $78.40 a barrel last July and dropped briefly below $50 last month. They rose to $61.54 a barrel at 10:55 a.m. today on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Black Monday Buyer

When equity markets collapsed on Oct. 19, 1987, in the infamous Black Monday crash, Rodriguez began buying stock in discount brokerage Quick & Reilly for about $3.75 a share, eventually building a 10 percent stake.

FleetBoston Financial Corp., now part of Bank of America Corp., bought the brokerage in 1998 for the equivalent of $41 a share.

``I've made my money over the past 30 years by being a shrewd buyer during times of chaos,'' Rodriguez said.

Rodriguez says he arrived at his $100-a-barrel forecast by calculating the average annual change in U.S. oil prices since 1933. He cut that average annual percentage gain in half to estimate how much prices will rise during the next decade.

``I think that's actually a conservative number,'' he said. ``We'll be above $100.''


Growth in worldwide oil demand is expected to accelerate to 1.6 percent this year from a growth rate of 0.9 percent in 2006, according to the International Energy Agency in Paris. Exxon Mobil Corp., the world's biggest oil company, expects global demand to continue rising by 1.6 percent a year through 2030.

The Cantarell field in the Gulf of Mexico pumped 1.44 million barrels of oil a day in December, down from 1.92 million at the start of 2006, according to Mexican government statistics. The field, produced when the Chicxulub meteor slammed into the Earth and created a 950-foot-thick pile of pulverized rock, was discovered in 1976 and began producing oil three years later.

To contact the reporter on this story: Joe Carroll in Chicago at jcarroll8@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: February 23, 2007 11:25 EST



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)3/30/2007 2:18:52 PM
From: Dennis Roth  Respond to of 206085
 
SUPER SPIKE!

Second annivesary of the headline grabbing $105 per bbl super spike call. See Message 21185072



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)7/19/2007 3:00:12 PM
From: Dennis Roth  Respond to of 206085
 
$100 Oil by 2008: CIBC Report
canada.com



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)7/22/2007 8:05:09 PM
From: Dennis Roth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206085
 
$100 Oil May Be Months Away, Not Years, Say CIBC, Goldman

By Mark Shenk
bloomberg.com

July 23 (Bloomberg) -- The $100-a-barrel oil that Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said would prevail by 2009 may be only a few months away.

Jeffrey Currie, a London-based commodity analyst at the world's biggest securities firm, says $95 crude is likely this year unless OPEC unexpectedly increases production, and declining inventories are raising the chances for $100 oil. Jeff Rubin at CIBC World Markets predicts $100 a barrel as soon as next year.

``We're only a headline of significance away from $100 oil,'' said John Kilduff, an analyst in the New York office of futures broker Man Financial Inc. ``The unrelenting pressure of increased demand has left the market a coiled spring.'' New disruptions of Nigerian or Iraqi supplies, or any military strike against Iran, might trigger the rise, Kilduff said in a July 20 interview.

Higher prices will increase revenue for energy producers from Exxon Mobil Corp. to PetroChina Co., while eroding profit at airlines including EasyJet Plc and railroads such as Union Pacific Corp. The U.S. and other oil-importing nations risk accelerating inflation, while higher energy costs threaten to restrain growth.

Benchmark crude oil futures ended last week at $75.57 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, up 51 percent since mid-January and twice the level of early 2003. A record number of options have been sold that give the buyer the right to buy crude oil at $100. The contracts, covering 50 million barrels, only pay off should oil go above the target price.

Goldman's View

Arjun Murti, a New York-based Goldman Sachs analyst who covers oil producers and refiners, roiled markets in March 2005 with a report saying prices could touch $105 a barrel during a ``super spike'' period because demand was stronger than anticipated. Price swings might also go as low as $50, Murti said at the time.

Currie, Goldman's global head of commodities research in London, is predicting that oil prices will probably touch a record and stay at unprecedented levels for months or years. The all-time high for Nymex crude futures is $78.40 a barrel on July 14, 2006.

``Ultimately, the key to the outlook going forward is when will Saudi Arabia ramp up production,'' he said in an interview. ``If you have a situation in which inventories globally get drawn to critically low levels, the volatility in this market is likely to explode, which significantly increases the probability of $100 oil.'' Oil might slip to $73.50 if OPEC were to start producing more now, he said.

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries is scheduled to next meet in September. No members have called for a gathering before then. A decision to raise output at that time would lead to greater supplies toward the end of the year.

Accelerating Demand

The failure of near-record fuel prices to restrain global oil demand growth is what concerns Rubin, chief strategist at the brokerage unit of Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce in Toronto.

``Prices have doubled, and demand is alive and well and accelerating,'' he said in a July 18 interview. ``The argument that rising prices would choke demand and bring increased output is falling to the wayside.''

A National Petroleum Council study led by former Exxon Mobil chairman Lee Raymond, released last week, predicted a growing gap between production and demand for oil and gas during the next two decades. As recently as 2005, Raymond said oil prices had probably peaked and dismissed the possibility that supply and demand could not be brought back into balance.

``There are questions about whether the oil industry can keep up with demand,'' U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said last week, commenting on the Petroleum Council report.

Gasoline Sales Rise

Gasoline pump prices averaging more than $3 a gallon across the U.S., the consumer of 25 percent of the world's oil, haven't dented sales. Deliveries of gasoline were a record 9.23 million barrels a day in the first half of this year, according to a July 18 report from the American Petroleum Institute in Washington.

``It appears that high prices are acceptable to the American consumer,'' said Robert Ebel, chairman of the energy program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. ``People want the house with a yard and white-picket fence so they are moving further and further out of the cities. They have to just get up earlier and drive further.''

Outside the U.S., demand increases are being led by India and China, where growing economies mean more cars and trucks and more factories that burn oil and gas.

Consumption between now and the end of the year will increase by 3.6 million barrels a day because of seasonal shifts. The rise is equal to the daily production of Kuwait and Oman combined, and it comes after OPEC twice in the past year cut production to support prices.

Rising Costs

The cost of finding and pumping oil is rising steadily, convincing analysts such as Rubin and Deutsche Bank AG chief energy economist Adam Sieminski that higher prices will last. Shortages of deepwater drilling ships and rigs has pushed daily rents to records, and the skilled workers needed to run rigs, weld pipes, pilot vessels, fix refineries and build oil-sands projects command ever-higher wages.

``Three years ago we were calling for $30 oil, then $35 and then $40 oil,'' said New York-based Sieminski, who last week raised his forecast for the average price of oil in 2010 to $60 a barrel from $45.

``I've gotten tired of increasing these forecasts in $5 increments,'' Sieminski said in an interview. ``Something has happened. Costs have continued to escalate, and the geopolitical situation has gotten worse.''

The $60-a-barrel forecast for 2010 is 15 percent higher than the average analyst forecast, Sieminski said. The projection probably will turn out to be too low, he said.

Oil prices could triple in three months to more than $200 a barrel, given the right circumstances, according to Matthew Simmons, chairman of Simmons & Co., a Houston investment bank.

`Still Cheap'

``Oil is still cheap,'' Simmons said. ``In the 20th century, with a few exceptions, oil was almost free. The only exceptions were during 1973, 1979 and when Iraq invaded Kuwait.''

Prices rose in 1974 after an oil embargo that followed the Arab-Israeli war and from 1979 through 1981 after Iran cut oil exports. The average cost of oil used by U.S. refiners was $35.24 a barrel in 1981, according to the Energy Department, or $79.67 in today's dollars.

While crude oil prices are approaching the records they set at this time last year, not everyone is convinced $100 crude will happen. From their peak, oil futures began a six-month slide. They got below $50 on Jan. 18 before rebounding.

``The risk parameters are somewhat different than a year ago, however the overall situation is similar,'' said Tim Evans, an energy analyst at Citigroup Inc. in New York who correctly predicted a year ago that oil prices were at a peak. ``We've priced in a shortage that is not evident yet.''

Pickens

A pullout from Iraq may be the event that pushes oil to $100 a barrel, according to Boone Pickens, the Dallas hedge fund manager who has joined Forbes Magazine's list of billionaires because of his bullish bets on energy prices. Pickens predicted a year ago that $100 oil would probably occur by now. Today he is looking for $80 within six months, and he says growing chaos in Iraq would be a bad sign. ``That could run prices pretty high,'' he said.

Goldman Sachs's Currie also notes similarities to a year ago, with global inventories at about the same level and U.S. government data showing an increasing bet on higher prices.

``At face value this market is strikingly similar to a year ago,'' Currie said. ``What is different? Supply is down a million barrels a day, demand is up a million barrels a day. The market is in a deficit.''

To contact the reporter on this story: Mark Shenk in New York at mshenk1@bloomberg.net .
Last Updated: July 22, 2007 19:10 EDT



To: Dennis Roth who wrote (41125)10/7/2008 4:40:48 AM
From: Dennis Roth  Respond to of 206085
 
Goldman Says Oil Unlikely to Rally; Risk to Forecast (Update1)

By Alexander Kwiatkowski
bloomberg.com

Oct. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Arjun Murti, the Goldman Sachs Group Inc. analyst who predicted a crude ``super spike'' in March 2005, said a sustained rally in the oil price is unlikely because of concern demand will weaken.

Murti and other equity energy analysts said slower global economic growth and technical selling pressure has made its $120 a barrel price forecast for the fourth quarter vulnerable to ``downside'' risk, according to a research note dated Oct. 6.

Banks have been forced to slash their oil price forecasts after crude futures slumped from their July 11 of record $147.27, driven lower by speculation the slowing global economy will erode consumer demand. Oil has fallen more than 37 percent since then and OPEC President Chakib Khelil yesterday said prices will continue to decline next year.

``Oil prices increasingly appear unlikely to sustain a rally until global GDP expectations bottom,'' Goldman said in the note. ``While we believe oil supply/demand fundamentals are not as bearish as is sentiment, we recognize that concern continues to mount towards global oil demand growth.''

New York-based Murti is a managing director at Goldman and head of Americas equity energy research. He first wrote of a ``super spike'' in March 2005, when he said oil prices could range between $50 and $105 a barrel through 2009. In May this year, he said prices may rise to between $150 and $200 a barrel within two years as growth in supply fails to keep pace with demand.

Last month, the team slashed its 2009 oil price forecast by more than 20 percent to $110 a barrel from $140 a barrel. A team of Goldman commodity research analysts led by Jeffrey Currie in London forecast prices to average $123 a barrel next year.

Crude futures for November delivery gained $2.61, or 3 percent, to trade at $90.42 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange at 8:07 a.m. London time. Crude declined to the lowest in 8 months yesterday.

Market conditions do not justify prices as low as around $90 a barrel, according to the Goldman report.

To contact the reporter on this story: Alexander Kwiatkowski in London at akwiatkowsk2@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: October 7, 2008 03:33 EDT