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To: sea_urchin who wrote (22797)	3/31/2005 5:07:30 PM
From: philv	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 81101

"I would imagine most of this "influence" comes about because of the extraordinary relationship to the US and particularly to the Christian fundamentalists who, at the moment, dominate American politics." I don't deny the evangelical connection, and I think the argument of why Christians support Israel is largely correct, and applies to the current US Administration. But it runs deeper than that, much deeper. Both parties compete to declare which one supports Israel the most. As a matter of fact, the alliance between the Christian right and the Jewish factor is a recent event, as in the past, most Jews in America supported the Democrats. The right wing/Jewish alliance is indeed a surprising dichotomy, as Jews are ever suspicious of right wing parties. So, to make the argument that the Israeli influence in the US is as it is because of Christian fundamentalism is not supported by historical facts in my opinion. Liberals are far more susceptible to the guilty conscience syndrome for the past atrocities you mention and are thus more inclined to "make amends", to ease their wounded conscience. "the influence of the evangelicals on the decision-making process in Washington, and particularly on the now-dominant Republican Party, is several times greater than the influence of U.S. Jewry.<<" As far as the above statement is concerned, I just don't buy it. Is Wolfowitz a "evangelical", or Rumsfeld, or Rice, or Cheney? How about the courts, the media barons, etc. Where is this influence? That is not to say there isn't any, because if there were not it would not be natural, but for the most part, both in government and without, I just don't see it. And I don't detect any great change to the direction of Christian fundamentalism in US society in general. From what I can see on TV, the path to Liberalism is inexorably continuing. The number of fundamentalist Christians are greatly outnumbered in US society. Both parties (being one and the same anyway) vie for support from any and every group, being Christian or Jew, left or right, but the big picture, the real power, never changes.