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To: Ilaine who wrote (106956)	3/31/2005 5:45:05 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793681

These laws that give health care providers and families the ability to cause death without prosecution are contrary to thousands of years of established law. No, CB, there has never been a standard that imposed treatment. Nobody was ever required to have surgery even when not having it would mean their certain death. Children and those not compos mentis have always had such decisions made by their guardians. There's no other way to do it. What is new is the technology that vastly increases the number of cases where a person can be kept alive for long periods without being conscious or compos mentis. For most of history, if a person was too sick to regain consciousness and take food in the normal manner, then they went without food and they died, and that was that.

To: Ilaine who wrote (106956)	3/31/2005 5:49:59 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793681

We all know that pretty much anybody who wants to can end his/her life without much difficulty. A simple plastic bag over the head will do it, and to make it go faster, seal it around your neck with duct tape. You probably have a plastic bag in your closet and a roll of duct tape whereever you keep your tools. A friend of mine did this. The down side of this may be that you might vomit. Since then, there's been a new gadget developed, the "Debreather." internationaltaskforce.org And then there's narcotics. Most doctors these days will give someone in a terminal state as many narcotics as they want. If they take too much, well, that's their decision. As one doctor put it recently, patients who want to die don't have any lack of armamentarium, although they may lack will, or, as in the case of Terri Schiavo, capacity. The truth is, and we all know it, unless you're incapacitated, if you really want to die, you can do it. It's also true that helping someone you love die is not going to get you prosecuted if they are in a terminal state, unless you do something indiscreet like shooting them in the head. Personally, I want helping someone to die to remain illegal, to be as scary as shit that you're going to get in trouble with the law, so you don't do it unless someone you love is desperate. I want you to wrestle with your soul, and pray for guidance. I don't want it to be easy. I sure as hell don't want bat-shits like George Felos flitting around offing people because he is deluded into thinking that he "communicates with their spirits."