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To: bull_derrick who wrote (22978)	4/1/2005 9:59:08 AM
From: kodiak_bull	Respond to of 23153

Derrick, I would suggest that there are few "ultimate" tests of our character, but many character tests along the way. The 9 year old who, playing baseball, breaks Mrs. Farnsworth's window and runs away, hoping not to be caught ("I dunno how it happened, honest.") fails a character test, but he's 9 years old. The 17 year old kid who is so mesmerized by the mystery of love and the power of his hormones tells Melissa that he will love her forever, and mean it, but will no doubt find out when he goes away to State U. that there seems to be something special about Rhonda in Expository Writing. The 22 year old kid in his senior year at Dartmouth, feeling love and loyalty to Patty, and also feeling pressure from his parents and her parents (who took him on a super vacation to Europe last summer), may agree to get engaged, only to find that the first day on the job at Morgan Stanley he meets a young woman who is everything he's ever dreamed of. The 25 year old 3rd year medical student who has no life at all, and has had none for several years, may like others in his position, opt for marriage to Dawn whom he lives with and who is working. That marriage may, like many others, not stand the first 6 years. I would also say that a "man is as good as his word" but with the longer infant/juvenile period that modern life creates in western society, it's entirely likely that none of the above are actually "men." Simply older juveniles. By the way, none of the above, despite biological maturity, were actually "women" either. Interesting that you put the onus and blame on men in your note--"a man is as good as his word, I don't think much of people who break such vows to trade their wives in for newer models"--I'm not sure that's the case. Wives also leave husbands (for the reasons I've detailed), even in their 50s. Also, men don't leave their wives for newer models, they want to get out of marriages which are not working, and usually it's a question of how the wife makes the husband feel. Often that arises out of how a wife herself feels about herself, but there are so many situations and variables it's impossible to write about. We don't have to look for ultimate tests of character, we find them all through life. Married only once for 27 years and still jazzed about it, Kb

To: bull_derrick who wrote (22978)	4/1/2005 9:33:43 PM
From: chowder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23153

BD, a vow is a vow and a man is only as good as his word. In this day and time, it isn't just the men who seek divorce. A lot of women, now in the work force, meet people at work who they become attracted to and eventually become involved with. Women file for divorce at incredible rates today. It isn't just the men. There are a lot of men who don't want a divorce. They would be content to have their wife not sleeping around and would even forgive her if she stopped. Yet, the woman files her divorce and it is granted. What good are vows if the judicial system won't honor them? A hand shake doesn't mean squat anymore when sealing a deal. It used to be that neighbors would watch out for your kids while playing outside and keep an eye on your property when you weren't there. Now nobody wants to get involved. It's truly sad, in my opinion. dabum