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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (40567)	4/3/2005 3:09:27 PM
From: fresc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

The practice of owning a handgun should be outlawed except in the case of military or law enforcement personnel. It is one thing to use rifles or shotguns for hunting and quite another to possess a firearm for which its only purpose is to harm or kill human beings. I don't believe a lot of people who own handguns would seriously be able to employ them in the event of need, and a hardened criminal would have no such hesitation. We're better off taking our chances unarmed, as far more people are killed in ACCIDENTAL gun incidents than the gun lobbyists would have us believe.

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (40567)	4/3/2005 9:16:11 PM
From: Srexley	Respond to of 173976

"So basically the legislature is able to take away a constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms?" The Constitution can be changed. I think you know that. But I was talking about restricting, not taking away. I think you know that too. "Therefore I'm not sure that they couldn't add hand guns to the list along with grenades" I am sure they could try. Would be a tough fight,and I think they (you?) would lose. Most reasonable people feel that hand guns and rifles suffice. Nobody really trying to get military weapons and that kind of think as you ridiculously suggest. "I have no intention of blowing my head off," Seemed to indicate you thought I might want too. Very offensive. "In fact if you own a gun there is about a 10,000 to one chance that your kid will be killed by your gun as opposed to the midnight prowler" Why do you guys always pose it in comparison to actually killing someone else? Nobody wants to do that. Even the honest folks who own guns. Can't verify your stat, but even if true, there is not a one in 10,000 chance your child will be killed by your gun. And I doubt it is true. "One of them shot himself because he was having marital problems, the other because he didn't have a wife and was lonely" I feel badly that you lost some friends. I know of some people that have killed themselves with guns, and there are numerous famous examples. But just because it is a relatively effective way to kill yourself, I don't want to give up my right to protect myself. That is just plain silly. Sad situation in your case. A fairly good chance their guns brought them some of the happier times of their lives too, btw. "you need to be a good steward of them and use and store them properly" Very, very true. Now you are talking some good sense. "Would you be against registering firearms" Yes. Against a National regstry. "requiring classes and proficiency tests for a gun license?" Both very sound things to do. If you could do this once in conjunction with getting a card that allowed you to purchase guns on the spot (as opposed to current waiting period). Tie the training to being able to get a gun, not something you need to do each time you want one. "And who is responsible when a kid takes an adult's gun to school?" Both. But gun owners in general better make sure their guns do not get used. In the sense that the kid got the gun, gotta place quite a bit of blame on the guy who lost control of his gun. But the kid is primarily responsible assuming he's 16 or 17 (and not 5 or 6). "You need a lockable gun safe" Yes, you do. And when age appropriate TEACH YOUR KIDS ABOUT GUNS! If you just rely on hiding them or locking them up, they will be a tantalizing object as opposed to a dangerous instrument.