To: Peter Dierks who wrote (40599 ) 4/4/2005 11:50:38 AM From: Kevin Rose Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976 There was an article in the local paper a week or more ago (can't find it online) about the court appointed doctor whose job it was to determine if Schiavo had any awareness. Although he was supposed to be neutral, he later said he went into it determined to do everything he could to find some awareness in her. He spent hours both observing and attempting to interact with her, including literally getting right into her face and begging her for a sign of awareness. In the end, he concluded, sadly, that her movements and the sounds she made were all random. Whether or not she earlier had some awareness, those xrays were showing her cerebrum as literally turning to liquid. The only 'brain' she had left was the brain stem, which controls automatic functions and kept her body alive, but not a person. The fact that the court of appeals that heard the case is mostly Republican appointees, and that the Supreme Court that rejected the case is mostly Republican appointees (7-2), really puts a dent in Tom 'Huey Long' DeLay's charges that 'liberal' judges didn't do their job. The laws that Florida passed were clearly unconstitutional, according to all the courts who reviewed them. The joke of a 'law' passed by Congress, whose conservative members were clearly grandstanding the issue, was thrown out just as quickly as the most frivolous lawsuit. I think that Bush miscalculated on the support that such an issue would get in his base. He assumed that if people were anti-abortion, they would support also removing choice at the end of life. What he ran into was a sort of "not in my backyard" attitude. It is easy for people who are convinced they will never need an abortion to be anti-abortion; those same people know that they could end up like Schiavo in a second, dead but for the tubes sticking in their body. I don't think the Catholic Church will change in our lifetime. My grandmother (who emigrated from Italy) was and my mother-in-law (whose parents emigrated from Poland) is an example of the 'old school' Church, where the Pope is infallible and practically utters the word of God verbatim. That sort of power leads to myoptic, dogmatic, inflexible views under the guise of 'righteousness'. The biggest advance I've heard of in the Church in my lifetime is the one my mother-in-law claims is true: a special dispensation to eat corned beef and cabbage if St Patrick's Day falls on a Friday in Lent...