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To: carranza2 who wrote (107606)4/4/2005 11:44:11 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793883
 
I don't want to do away with the illegals, myself. I think we're just going through one of those phases that we go through from time to time.

Just think it's ironic that there's no real way to keep them out, but making it harder to go back and forth makes them more likely to stay here. Then they have kids here and the kids are automatically citizens and so it goes.

We just can't seem to grapple with immigration in an intellectually honest way, we keep doing dumb things like making it illegal for Chinese and Japanese to own land, which was common as recently as the 1940's, or keeping out Eastern Europeans or Africans, and other moronic expressions of nativistic yahooism.

The most recent immigrants seem to be the worst about wanting to slam the door shut after themselves.



To: carranza2 who wrote (107606)4/4/2005 12:35:50 PM
From: Mary Cluney  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793883
 
The policy choice is a tough one, too. Control the border in any kind of effective fashion, and the social pressure cooker in Mexico starts heating up. And believe me, there are social pressures galore down there which illegal migration to the US relieves.

Is it too much to ask that we have enlightened policy?

What would you do if you live in a nice house and next door, the family is or becomes dysfunctional?

1. You could move.
2. You can build massive fences and separate yourself from your neighbor
3. You could engage the neighbor and help them to get their act together.

In this case, we can't move and we are not about to evict our neighbors. Fortunately, Mexico is rich in natural resources, and the country is physically beautiful. And, we know they have a population with a lot of people willing to work - even at very low wages.

So, what do you think the answer should be?