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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Grainne who wrote (100282)	4/4/2005 4:11:17 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

[clearly rejects any artificial, medical, hormonal etc. separation of egg and sperm, and honors at all times the possibility of new life being created. ] This is a relatively modern teaching and is not part of long term Catholic views. It had to be after the invention of the microscope. Papal Infalibility (a modern doctrine, when considering the 1000 year history of Catholicism) makes it hard for them to backpedal on more effective barrier methods. As I pointed out, it was a majority view that birth control should be allowed (beyond that of the rhythm method). The recently deceased Pope was part of a minority viewpoint that carried the day in 1964 which disagreed with the majority, whose recommendation was the Protestant view on Birth Control. This is why I mentioned Christian Scientists. Catholics are certainly not that! Theologically speaking, can mere mortals make conception difficult if God is all powerful? Could a condom or birth control pill have prevented the birth of Jesus, for instance? No. If God insists on poking a hole in the condom or diaphragm, or even involving Immaculate Conception, it will happen. If it is as you say, this dogma is a cynical attempt to increase the number of Catholics irrespective of the moral consequences of the decision, then we have a problem. No man on Earth is free of error. Only recent (c.1870) Papal Infalibility dogma makes a SINGLE person on Earth error free and it is true for the Pope ONLY when acting Ex Cathedra. My argument is that the long term tradition of the church HAS NOT held this view on birth control and therefore it would be relatively easy to modify with a Vatican Council of some kind. Do I expect this to happen? No.