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To: Gib Bogle who wrote (61608)	4/4/2005 5:05:20 PM
From: shades	Respond to of 74559

"the best and the worst that the world has to offer" Well, the best things that this part of the world has to offer are certain places relatively undefiled by human presence. I doubt that you'll find many places like that within walking distance. But western ideals certainly encourage growth to the point we are so starved for space that we voluntarily give ourselves the flu like some twilight zone episode of star trek: amazon.com Every now and then, the meager budget for Star Trek was helped along by stories set almost entirely on the Enterprise, which required shooting within established sets. "The Mark of Gideon" was a clever way to mitigate the visual monotony of such episodes. Captain Kirk (William Shatner) beams himself down to the planet Gideon, but instead finds himself alone in a mock-up of his own starship. (Translation: it's Shatner on the Enterprise set without the rest of the cast.) Almost alone, that is: Kirk finds himself accompanied by the beautiful Odona (Sharon Acker), an inhabitant of Gideon selected for infection by an outsider, in hopes that a plague of some sort will help the planet's overpopulation problem. Despite, or even because of, the set-bound nature of the story, "The Mark of Gideon" is actually one of the boldest and freshest ideas in the series, and like "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield," took on a hot topic of controversy (population control) in the issue-driven 1960s. The script, incidentally, was cowritten by Stanley Adams, who played Cyrano Jones in "The Trouble with Tribbles." --Tom Keogh I saw some ads recently from the sierra club I believe of backpackers climbing cars in a junkyard and camping out roasting hot dogs in the middle of the walmart parking lot. I see lots of campers in wal mart parking lots today and the consensus of most older natives of florida I find is for the yanks to go back to new york and take thier crowding problems with them. No one hears the tree fall in the forest if we don't have the audio tape recorders, video cameras, satellites, and press and media their to observe no? Who wants to sit on walden pond and write a book when you can fire up the PSP on the crowded subway line and watch "silent running" imdb.com in your on confined virtual space Neo? THe matrix has you my friend and in virtual reality we all can have wide open ponds to write books about nature on. While General Chen slaughters his enemy in his virtual game and I slaughter my enemy in neverwinter nights - you are blissfully ignorant of the death and destruction of the reality next to you in the seat 1 spot over while we are ignorant of the peace and sublime of your virtual kayaking adventure through the grand canyon or your fishing trip gamerankings.com

To: Gib Bogle who wrote (61608)	4/4/2005 6:07:54 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello gibbogle, <<the best things that this part of the world has to offer are certain places relatively undefiled by human presence. I doubt that you'll find many places like that within walking distance>> Your doubts are wrong, but I understand why that could easily be, since most folks' impression of Hong Kong is so ... ... achamchen.com , and if emptied of people, like thus, ... achamchen.com, would be because of ... achamchen.com - scroll down to see beach where I go to swim from every other day, which is emptied of people all except Sundays. On Sundays, unlike weekdays, a ferry serves folks from a nearby beach - St Stephen Beach - and takes us here, where there are two very good family seafood restaurants operated by the exceeding few folks residing here ... ec.hku.hk :O) The island is a 5 minute drive, plus a 45 min boat ride for me on Sundays. I live within 10-15 easy minutes walk of here ... travelchinaguide.com , like to dine here ... asiamiles.com , Have easy enough access to plenty of space emptied of just about everybody ... achamchen.com , and after waking up, can walk all about where people had once been ... achamchen.com Most folks do not realize that HK is 97% green and unoccupied, and if counting in the water around us, 99.99999% empty, and accessible. If still bothered by crowds, we then venture to ... achamchen.com , around 1 hour jet, 1 hr propeller, 10 min banca boat ride away, and if still troubled, then ... elnidoresorts.com in about the same distance but tacking on the time for a 2 hour jeep ride and do Message 15255942 So, you can sense, that finding space in HK is not problematic, just costly. This is Hong Kong, the freest, bestest, most dynamic, very international (see list of international schools for indication moveandstay.com ) locale in the world, bar none, in the aggregate webserv1.discoverhongkong.com Chugs, Jay