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To: Bill who wrote (100445)	4/6/2005 5:39:55 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Similarly, unless she has family in Switzerland or has been there more than I have, she might very well lose a debate about the way things are done in Switzerland I disagree. Here's why: a person may have a very narrow view of Switzerland based upon the presumption that their personal knowledge is cyclopedic or even representative. Business trips automatically exclude certain parts of a town or country that might be better understood by reading about them prior to visiting. Most people aren't running surveys with statistically meaningful sampling. As a visitor, you are always experiencing it as a visitor. I've lived in Scotland, but there are things about Scotland that could be best understood by reading. I did that when there and some things were a lot clearer afterward. Some behaviors can be misunderstood by a visitor who hasn't done some reading, causing them to misinterpret their first hand impression. Shy may not be shy, but private. Loudness or even insults may not be anger, but gregariousness.

To: Bill who wrote (100445)	4/6/2005 9:16:12 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

"Similarly, unless she has family in Switzerland or has spent more time there than I have, she might very well lose a debate about the way things are done in Switzerland." You were insisting on talking about gun statistics in Switzerland. These are easily available on the web, as are long discussions about why comparative gun statistics for different countries are often misleading. Is there something specific you are trying to prove, or what? It would be hard to imagine that someone doing web research could not make a convincing argument, if they have basic research and reading comprehension skills.

To: Bill who wrote (100445)	4/6/2005 11:01:42 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

I am not an authority on Ireland, just as Ish is not an authority on trends in international agriculture and you are not an authority on greyhounds. I hate the concept of a bunch of experts on different subjects sitting around pontificating about them. I thought I established that with all the bruhaha over kholt and liberarianism. I think it makes the debate very boring. Everyone at SI has something they know a lot about, or maybe a very sweet personality and the gift of gab, or an excellent sense of humor. All of those are very valuable, and lovely for different reasons. I do not expect anyone to defer to me on the subjects I know a little about--cooking and child rearing and animal rights and Ireland come to mind. Nor do I expect to be ridiculed as a cubicle inhabitant or whatever when I challenge someone on a subject--any subject. And that goes for everyone here--no pulling rank because you fancy yourself an expert. No condescending. I can't stand that arrogant attitude stuff.