To: Tom Clarke who wrote (100469 ) 4/6/2005 11:39:21 PM From: Grainne Respond to of 108807 Well you can see how ugly the Prods in N. Ireland are, and why it is really better to just leave the whole mess alone unless you are from there and MUST say something. I think that is one reason the southern Irish just mind their own business. They had their big independence push and celebrate it happily. You can see all the bullet holes at the General Post Office, and read the plaque. I think the north is an uneasy sadness and failure to them. But the young are looking out to Europe, not north to what they probably perceive as a reminder of the painful past. McAleese is certainly correct in what she says. Even in the late sixties, most Catholics could not vote because they did not own property. They were discriminated against in housing and employment. They tended to be poor and miserable. Martin Luther King got them all excited and they demanded more, and, well, the rest is history. This is a quote by Prime Minister Terence O'Neill in 1969. It sounds like something someone would have said several centuries ago, but emotions were raw in Northern Ireland and there was plenty of bigotry. The Protestant population just despised the Catholic Church: 'It is frightfully hard to explain to Protestants that if you give Roman Catholics a good job and a good house, they will live like Protestants because they will see neighbours with cars and television sets; they will refuse to have eighteen children. But if a Roman Catholic is jobless, and lives in the most ghastly hovel, he will rear eighteen children on National Assistance. If you treat Roman Catholics with due consider and kindness, they will live like Protestants in spite of the authoritative nature of their Church . . .'