To: tejek who wrote (228199 ) 4/7/2005 3:21:37 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583986 Dems make up nearly 50% of registered voters. Sunnis make up 10-15% of the population. Can you see the difference? I can see the difference but I don't think that makes them subservient. To use another example the Libertarian Party and Green Party both have a lot less then 10-15% of registered voters in the US but they are not subservient to either major party. The Democrats, the Greens and the Libertarians are all like the Sunnis in the limited sense that is covered by the analogy. They are not in power but they are no subservient. The two minor parties are not only not in power but have little chance of ever being in power, but still they do not work to serve the major parties. I'm not sure if our disagreement is semantic (about the meaning of the word subservient), or substantive (you actually think that the political organizations of the Sunnis will primarily server the Shia and Kurds). "Still I can see why a number of Sunnis don't like the new arrangement. They used to be top dog, and now they are not. However the more thoughtful Sunnis should recognize that it is in their best interest to stop their warring ways and "join the party". They will have more influence if they do that. But then violent insurgents and terrorists are often not particularly thoughtful people who carefully think about interests and consequences." Exactly. Than perhaps we agree more on the substance of this particular issue then we disagree, having only a semantic disagreement, or just different ways of expressing or spinning our ideas. Presumably we do have some substantive disagreement, I imagine you are more pessimistic about the situation than I am, but it might be that your to one side of some middle and I am to the other, rather then really being at two extremes. Too often in political debate there is a tendency to see the other side as having a more extreme opinion than their actual opinion. There can even be pressure to express your own opinion in a more extreme way thinking that acknowledging nuance and shades of grey can weaken your argument against an impassioned, relentless debate partner. Tim