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To: Suma who wrote (100800)	4/9/2005 1:17:31 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

I teach seniors this year. I would not do this level of philosophical discussion with anyone else. The kids in my classes are almost all over 18, many are living on their own, and I am trying to give them a last shot at a banquet of educational possibilities. We started Waking Life after Groundhog day, because my students now have a small basis in philosophy to work with. By the end of the 90 minutes we were talking about Wittgenstein and Ryle and the logical positivists. I had a fantastic discussion with the kids about abstract concepts being communicated via language which is symbolic (this is discussed in the movie Waking Life)- and we made comparisons to mathematics, and it was FANTASTIC. Do they all get it? No. But they get that they are being challenged, and some of them said "Wow, thanks for showing us this movie. I don't get all of it, but I get some of it, and I'm going to watch it again." To which I say "I've seen it 7 times, and I get something new out of it every time I watch it." The class is Exploration of Film- so we cover lots of movies that have been adapted from books; we cover documentaries (since they are like non-fiction books, and the kids have almost no exposure to them); and I cover movies that bridge to subjects I think they need to explore or review (like philosophy, or con law and history). It's very much like a humanities class.

To: Suma who wrote (100800)	4/9/2005 1:35:43 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I really hope you change your mind about Groundhog Day, viewing in the context of moral development; it is really a very funny and clever movie. Bill Murray's character is really disklikable and juvenile, but it is required for humorous effect. I certainly know how humor can ring hollow sometimes. I really wanted to like "I (heart) Huckabees". It never took off for me. I felt really ripped off. I've got a lot of friends who discovered this movie (GHD) years after it came out, and came to appreciate it.