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To: tsigprofit who wrote (16434)	4/12/2005 8:00:18 AM
From: Ron	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Rumsfeld: We have no exit strategy. We will stay until the Iraqi people are able to defend themselves. Of course we have no exit strategy. We do not plan to leave. Why would we be building 14 military bases if we were ever planning on leaving? rense.com Are the administration's controversial domestic gambits designed to draw attention from the launch of a gigantic US effort to extend its empire across the globe? Could be. The amount we are spending on the military dwarfs all else. commondreams.org

To: tsigprofit who wrote (16434)	4/12/2005 11:25:35 AM
From: Bucky Katt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Of course it is, as no one is held accountable, and that is the big joke on US. And it will continue as the buck keeps getting passed along and average Jack & Jill get confused easily these days.... The really sad thing about Iraq is we went to war (at least this is where they are now placing the blame) on rotten intel that was taken from a psycho they nicknamed curveball. Remember Colin Powell and his little vial of baby powder makin' his case? And all the rest of the bs, like Uranium from Africa? 'Curveball' Debacle Reignites CIA Feud The former agency chief and his top deputy deny reports that they were told a key source for Iraqi intelligence was deemed unreliable. WASHINGTON — A bitter feud erupted Friday over claims by a presidential commission that top CIA officials apparently ignored warnings in late 2002 and early 2003 that an informant code-named "Curveball" — the chief source of prewar U.S. intelligence about Iraqi germ weapons — was unreliable. Former CIA Director George J. Tenet and his chief deputy, John E. McLaughlin, furiously denied that they had been told not to trust Curveball, an Iraqi refugee in Germany who ultimately was proved a fraud. But the CIA's former operations chief and one of his top lieutenants insisted in interviews that debates had raged inside the CIA about Curveball's credibility, even as then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell vouched for the defector's claims in a crucial address to the United Nations Security Council on the eve of war. "The fact is there was yelling and screaming about this guy," said James L. Pavitt, deputy director of operations and head of the clandestine service until he retired last summer. "My people were saying: 'We think he's a stinker,' " Pavitt said. But CIA bioweapons analysts, he said, "were saying: 'We still think he's worthwhile.' " Pavitt said he didn't convey his own doubts to Tenet because he didn't know until after the March 2003 invasion of Iraq that Curveball was "of such import" in prewar CIA assessments provided to the president, Congress and the public. "Later, I remember the guffaws by myself and others when we said, 'How could they have put this much emphasis on this guy? … He wasn't worth [anything] in our minds," Pavitt said. commondreams.org