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To: Return to Sender who wrote (14227)	4/12/2005 6:42:02 PM
From: Cary Salsberg	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25522

RE: "A bear market is a loss of 20% or more. A secular bear market is the inability to recover that loss of value which essentially means you have not started a new bull market." At some point, the loss of 20% or more will be recovered. That will confirm that a bull market has started. Your definition, a secular bear, merely gives a name to the period between the bear market bottom and the bull market confirmation. Most investors would like to know that a bull market started, and when, and would not want to wait until the Nasdaq passes the 5000 mark.

To: Return to Sender who wrote (14227)	4/12/2005 6:58:27 PM
From: Big Bucks	Respond to of 25522

RTS- WOW! That was a great article. The indicators for a pretty ugly market decline are building, IMO. There is a chicken or egg conundrum issue. Are interest rates and yield curves a symptom, or result, of market dynamics or vice versa? In other words, the Fed controls interest rates, which affects yields and the Fed makes its decisions based on market and economic data. IMO, it is the FED policies and tactics that create these kinds of economic cycle issues. In effect they are indirectly manipulating the markets and money flow into alternative financial investments directly by their actions. When they raise interest rates to a point where government securities and bonds have better, safer rates of return than stocks or the markets provide, the money moves out of stocks and into safe haven government sponsored investments.