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To: tejek who wrote (229023)	4/14/2005 8:34:49 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573089

I was only pointing why people make references to Hitler when talking about Bush. And I was pointing out that its unreasonable and over the top. People are getting ostracized whether you believe it or not. "Ostracized" comes from the ancient Greek. People who were ostracized where banished from society. They where kicked out of the city state. Bush hasn't been kicking people out of the country just because they oppose the war. He also hasn't excluded anyone from society. He doesn't have the power. There are scores of millions of liberals in our society. If Bush was foolish and silly enough to try to declare someone banished from society for opposing the Iraq war the liberals would either totally ignore the call, or they would laugh at Bush, or they would scream at or about Bush, but they certainly wouldn't follow the declaration. Cheney and ole Rummie have hinted at it but haven't come right out with it. So Bush is facist because he calls people who disagree with his decisions unamerican, but then it turns out that it isn't Bush, and in fact no one in the administration actually said such a thing... The ones in Cuba were. And the same guy who was in Cuba ended up in Afghanistan as well. Instances of violations are so widespread that I am seriously amazed you would try to defend ole Rummie. No defense of Rumsfeld is needed. Your haven't presented a solid case for the prosecuation. I don't have to defend him, and in fact if you could present a soid case against him I probably woun't want to at least if I didn't have a good reason to consider it unconvincing. Nothing wrong with quitting a treaty that allows you to quit. Why are you working so hard to diverge from the original premise I was making? Your original statement included the implication that there was something wrong with withdrawing from the treaty with the required notice. If there isn't anything wrong with it than you should not mention it as something that makes Bush a facist or like the nazis. I'm sure I could come up with 100 insignificant similarities between Bush and Hitler, or between Clinton and Hitler for that matter. But its pretty meaningless unless the aspect or action of Bush or Clinton is not just something wrong but something very wrong. He withdrew, then 'violated' them.....just like Bush. Technically, neither were in violation because they were clever enough to withdraw first. If the treaty doesn't allow for a withdrawl, then either the act of withdrawing, or acting against the rules of the treaty even after you declare that you withdraw from it, is a violation. Take your pick. If on the other hand Hitler did withdraw from treaties that had provision for withdrawl then that specific act by Hitler wasn't a violation of the letter or the spirit of the treaty and that specific action by Hitler wasn't wrong. Also its only one treaty that you mentioned that Bush withdrew from. The others were either never ratified or where not violated by any offical order from Bush or his cabinet. Tim