To: gregor who wrote (3241 ) 4/13/2005 3:36:32 PM From: alan w Respond to of 5569 Hi Gregor. You covered quite a bit of ground here and I sure wish you would provide scripture to back up your beliefs. It's hard to reply when you simply state beliefs without saying where in scripture you get these ideas. With that said, God is actually the only eternal "thing" in the universe. For something to be eternal, it has to have existed always. Only God fits this definition. As for what I believe happens when we die, I'm sure you've already seen my response to Soros. However, I don't know what you're referring to when you say God created a place in the belly of the earth that departed souls would reside while they await the "rescue" of Christ. I guess I haven't heard of this. Since I believe that all who have died are in the unseen awaiting resurrection, your explanation of blood redemption and covering is something I haven't given any thought to. As far as exceptions go, we are conciliated to God. He is no longer at enmity with us. And when I say us, I am speaking of the entirety of mankind. See my earlier post on 2 Cor. 5:19, Romans 5:18&19, 1 John 2:2 etc... Christ paid for all, God doesn't have to make exceptions. All are covered under the blood of Christ. If you agree that God will eventually reconcile all creation, past present and future, does your reconciliation include the majority of humanity writhing in torment forever? If so, why? If God is reconciled to all mankind, and Christ has paid for all mankind's sin, why would God continue to torture them? Your last paragraph includes things that I haven't heard of. Locusts being pre-Adamite men etc.. I can't comment on something I know nothing about. However, Christ has paid for all sin. That is clear from the scriptures. You simply don't believe it. Of ourselves we can't pay for sin anyway. We have nothing to offer. Remember, it's NOTHING WE DO. OK Gregor, if Christ paid for believer's sin with 3 days of "hell", why do billions of unbelievers have to spend eternity to pay for their sin? Why can't they stay for 3 days like Christ did? Are men expected to "pay" more that Christ did? These are my views brother. alan w