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Gold/Mining/Energy : PEAK OIL - The New Y2K or The Beginning of the Real End? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Doug R who wrote (334)	4/14/2005 6:31:48 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris	Respond to of 1183

>>A nuclear solution to the tar sand/natural gas problem could be do-able. The time it takes to get that up and running is one glitch. Another is public resistance to nuclear power plants.<< I am not particularly fond of nuclear power plants myself, but I see this as the only viable alternative. I come from a country that could be a single country in the world that is not only self-sufficient, but also a net energy-exporter based only on nuclear power. The country is Lithuania and the European Union is scheduled to close its Russian-built nuclear power plant in 2009. I hope that Lithuanian politicos realize that it's a mistake and stop the closing. Tough chance though. How high has the energy cost go and the economy drop for people to accept the nukes in their backyard? Maybe they won't accept it until it is too late. :( 20 or so nuclear plants right now would buy USA a lot of time. Jurgis the Nuker

To: Doug R who wrote (334)	4/14/2005 7:56:15 PM
From: wherry	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1183

Saying that something is subsidised does not make it so. Unless you have evidence (reliable numbers from an accessible source) say with reference to COS or OPC (both reputable pure play oil sands public companies with properly audited accounts)and can point to the line items in those accounts showing a subsidy, or unless you can document something external to the projects which is a targeted subsidy, then I will consider the assertion of a current subsidy to oil sands extraction not at all proven. The Nexen/OPTI oil sands partnership is not going to use any natural gas, by the way, and indeed its process is even designed to have its own co-generation plant for electricity. Tony.