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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (59696)	4/15/2005 7:19:30 AM
From: tonto	Respond to of 81568

What a silly argument you are trying to make... I thought that God is gay since he does not have a wife.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (59696)	4/15/2005 9:55:36 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

chinu. Hopefully this kind of logical thinking will spread to other democratic countries. Danish Queen Says Tolerance of Muslims Has Limits By Per Bech Thomsen Friday 15.04.2005, swissinfo.org COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - Denmark's Queen Margrethe urged Muslim immigrants to learn Danish to help them feel more at home and said in an official biography published on Thursday society should show limited tolerance of radical Islam. "We are being challenged by Islam these years. Globally as well as locally," said the 64-year-old queen, who was interviewed by journalist Annelise Bistrup for her book "Margrethe." "We must take this challenge seriously. We have simply left it flapping around for far too long, because we are tolerant and rather lazy," she is quoted as saying. About 8 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people are immigrants -- about a third of those come from other European Union countries or North America and only 150,000 are Muslims. Among the immigrants is Margrethe's daughter-in-law, the very popular Crown Princess Mary, who is from Australia. But Denmark has cracked down on migration in the past three years and the anti-immigrant Danish People's Party, an ally of the center-right government, has pushed through laws making it harder to bring in foreign spouses or qualify for asylum. The monarch said people who dedicated their lives to religion were fascinating and felt she had gained insight into Islam from her studies of archaeology. She went on to say "there is also something frightening about such a totality which is also a part of Islam. A certain response must be shown and sometimes one must run the risk of being labeled in a less flattering way. Because there are certain things with which one should not be tolerant." Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen won a second term in February thanks to the popularity of new rules which have cut the number of asylum-seekers by 80 percent. Human rights organizations have criticized such measures. Many newcomers to the Nordic country do not learn Danish and the unemployment rate among immigrants -- particularly from developing countries -- is still much higher than among Danes,as are crime rates. "We could have handled this challenge a bit better, if we had realized what we were up against," Margrethe said. Muslims should learn the language properly to prevent them feeling excluded and seeking security in radical Islam. "Therefore it is wise to make demands on the language. We should not be content with living next to each other. We should rather live together," she said.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (59696)	4/15/2005 11:08:24 AM
From: Suma	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Well if the truth be known, Jesus was gay. He surrounded himself with all those men and if the Bible could be believed he never did have a relationship with a woman.(sic) If we get into this branding people by their sexual proclivity we are opening up a can of worms. Let's cease and desist... It brings out the homophobia in everyone who just cannot accept that what one does in ones private lives is just that PRIVATE.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (59696)	4/15/2005 8:02:18 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

chinu. If you and the many like you spent as much time condemning the enemy ( radical islam ) in the USA and elsewhere as you do condemning your president you may actually do some good. While you and the many other confused liberal thinkers continue to rant about political matters other good and dedicated people continue to do their jobs and try to rid the world of the enemy. CAIR leader convicted on terror charges Founding board member of Texas chapter funded Hamas April 14, 2005 By Art Moore FBI agents arrest Ghassan Elashi and brothers in 2002. A founder of the Texas chapter of a highly influential U.S. Islamic lobby group was found guilty of supporting terrorism. Ghassan Elashi, along with two brothers, was convicted in Dallas yesterday of channeling funds to a high-ranking official of the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, Mousa Abu Marzook. Elashi was a board member of the Texas chapter of the Washington, D.C.-based Council on American Islamic Relations -- the third CAIR figure to be convicted on federal terrorism charges since 9-11. CAIR is a spin-off of the Richardson, Texas-based Islamic Association For Palestine, or IAP, which was founded by Marzook. Former FBI counterterrorism chief Oliver Revell has called the IAF "a front organization for Hamas that engages in propaganda for Islamic militants." Prosecutors said Ghassan Elashi, with brothers Bayan and Basman, tried to hide a $250,000 investment by Marzook in their Richardson, Texas, computer company, then funneled payments to Marzook in return. Marzook, deputy chief of Hamas' political bureau in Syria, founded the IAP in 1991. At its conferences in the U.S., the IAP hosted leaders of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. Marzook was deported in 1997. Ghassan Elashi, Bayan Elashi and their company were found guilty of all 21 federal counts: conspiracy, money laundering and dealing in property of a terrorist, the Associated Press reported. The AP did not mention Ghassan Elashi's role with CAIR, however. Each count carries a maximum 10 years in prison. Sentencing is scheduled Aug. 1. Facing the same 21 counts, Basman Elashi was convicted of three counts of conspiracy but acquitted of the other charges. Ghassan Elashi did not comment on the conviction, but lawyer Tim Evans said, according to the AP, "It's hard times for people of Middle Eastern descent." Michael P. Gibson, vowing an appeal, said, "There is no evidence that money ever funded any terrorism. This is not a terrorism case, it's a financial crimes case." When the Elashis were indicted in 2002, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft called them "terrorist money men." It's not the first conviction for Ghassan Elashi. As chairman of the Holy Land Foundation charity in Dallas, Elashi was convicted last year of making illegal technology shipments to two countries on the U.S. list of terrorist-sponsoring states, Libya and Syria. Four brothers, including Bayan and Basman, also were convicted. Other CAIR figures convicted since 9-11 are Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer, a former communications specialist and civil rights coordinator, and Bassem Khafagi, former director of community relations. Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on charges he trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent several members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist group with reported ties to al-Qaida. In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but admitted he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S. After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer Stanley Cohen, who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for Osama bin Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured. Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003 while serving with CAIR and convicted on fraud and terrorism charges. Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas and the domination of the U.S. by Islam. As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad, was cited by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be America's highest authority. He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal to any other religion but to be dominant.