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To: Sully- who wrote (9365)4/30/2005 8:25:21 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Saddam's Atrocities

Little Green Footballs

US investigators at the most recently discovered mass
grave in Iraq have exhumed 113 bodies so far —
almost all of them women and children:

(Hat tip: jrdroll.)

<<<

113 Kurds Are Found In Mass Grave

BAGHDAD, April 29 — U.S. investigators have exhumed the remains of 113 people — all but five of them women, children or teenagers — from a mass grave in southern Iraq that may hold at least 1,500 victims of Saddam Hussein’s campaign against the Kurdish minority in the 1980s, U.S. and Iraqi officials said this week.

The recovered bodies are expected to be among the evidence used against the deposed Iraqi president by prosecutors at a special tribunal, investigators said.

The non-acidic soil at the grave site preserved layers and layers of distinctive Kurdish clothing worn by many of the victims, suggesting that they may have piled on their best clothes expecting to be relocated, investigators said.

Authorities showed reporters some of the remains, including the skull of an older woman with pink dentures and the skeleton of a teenage girl clutching a bag of possessions.

“These were not combatants,” said Gregg Nivala, a member of a U.S. team investigating crimes committed by Hussein’s government and assisting the tribunal. “These were women and children.”
>>>

littlegreenfootballs.com

washingtonpost.com



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)4/30/2005 8:44:42 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Peace in Iraq?

Michael J. Totten
Posted by Jeremy Brown

The Washington Post offers yet another disturbing look at
the reality of prewar Iraq, before the first Gulf War created
the no-fly zones:


<<<

BAGHDAD, April 29 -- U.S. investigators have exhumed the remains of 113 people -- all but five of them women, children or teenagers -- from a mass grave in southern Iraq that may hold at least 1,500 victims of Saddam Hussein's campaign against the Kurdish minority in the 1980s, U.S. and Iraqi officials said this week.

[...]

The non-acidic soil at the grave site preserved layers and layers of distinctive Kurdish clothing worn by many of the victims, suggesting that they may have piled on their best clothes expecting to be relocated, investigators said.

Authorities showed reporters some of the remains, including the skull of an older woman with pink dentures and the skeleton of a teenage girl clutching a bag of possessions.

[...]

The grave actually is a series of 18 trenches, which investigators say they believe Iraqi forces dug with front loaders and maintained for systematic executions.

Investigators said that women and children were forced to stand at the edge of the pits, then shot with AK-47 assault rifles
. Casings were found near the site, they said.

"They sprayed people with bullets so they fell back" into the graves, Iraq's human rights minister, Bakhtyar Amin, told reporters.

[...]

Most of the children were very young, and 10 were infants
, authorities said.
>>>

Posted by Jeremy Brown

michaeltotten.com

washingtonpost.com



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)5/6/2005 4:12:21 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
New Mass Graves Uncovered In Iraq

By Blackfive on Military

The video (linked to) below was taken on May 3rd. The majority of the Iraqis in the mass grave were Kurdish women and children who were butchered.

CAUTION: CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES.
A mass grave was recently discovered in the southern Iraqi province of Muthanna. The grave is considered to be damning evidence against former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and members of his regime. Soundbites are from Dr. Bakhtiar Amin, the former Iraqi Minister for Human Rights and an archaeologist who wishes to remain unnamed...Video produced by JOC Bill Houlihan for American Forces Radio and Television Service.

Click on the link for the video:
dvidshub.net

I hope that the evidence the un-named archaeologist finds will help prosecute Saddam Hussein and his lieutenants. When I see images like these, I can't help but remember that France, Germany, and Russia would have kept Saddam in power.

182,000 Kurds are still unaccounted for...


blackfive.net



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)5/11/2005 2:39:49 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
"When I see images like these, I can't help but remember that
France, Germany, and Russia would have kept Saddam in power."

via Blackfive

New Mass Grave Discovered in Muthanna, Iraq

Winds of Change.NET
by Joe Katzman at May 11, 2005 05:44 AM

A mass grave was recently discovered in the southern Iraqi province of Muthanna. The majority of the Iraqis in the mass grave were Kurdish women and children who were butchered. Blackfive has some details, a still shot, and a link to a video.

He also notes that 182,000 Kurds remain unaccounted for....

windsofchange.net

blackfive.net



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)11/25/2005 4:52:30 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
THE FACE OF EVIL

Kathryn Jean Lopez
The Corner

A former Saddam Hussein torturer reminisces:

<<<

"They would usually say 'there is no God but God'," said Abu Hussein.

Death always came after weeks of torture.

"Sometimes we would hang them upside down and beat their feet with clubs. Or we would electrocute them," he said.

"One of the worst things was putting 10 people in a one-square-metre room for weeks. They had a brief break every day and were allowed the toilet every three days," he said.

Three executions were carried out each Monday and Thursday. One day Saddam's feared son Uday showed up and asked about eight political prisoners standing nearby. He ordered their immediate execution, said Abu Hussein.

Abu Hussein, a father of three, said watching men writhe in agony as they died sometimes made him cry. But he said nobody could afford to defy orders in Saddam's Iraq.

"We would have been killed on the spot. One time this executioner was one hour late in hanging someone and he was himself hanged. What could we do? All of this had a toll on us," he said.
>>>

He is ready, by the way, to get back to work: "I am ready to return to my job if Saddam comes back."

corner.nationalreview.com

alertnet.org



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)12/4/2005 8:31:33 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35834
 
The Black Book of Saddam Hussein

Little Green Footballs

A new 700-page book published in France details the nightmarish dirty deeds of Saddam Hussein:

<<<

The big black book of horrors.

The obsession of many journalists and commentators with the fruitless hunt for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons has meant much of the evidence of Saddam’s atrocities in liberated Iraq has been under-reported. Sinje Caren Stoyke, a German archeologist and president of Archeologists for Human Rights, catalogues 288 mass graves, a list that is already out of date with the discovery of fresh sites every week.

“There is no secret about these mass graves,” Stoyke writes. “Military convoys crossed towns, full of civilian prisoners, and returned empty. People living near execution sites heard the cries of men, women and children. They heard shots followed by silence.”

Stoyke estimates one million people are missing in Iraq, presumed dead, leaving families with the dreadful task of finding and identifying the remains of their loved ones.

Abdullah Mohammed Hussein was a soldier fighting in the mountains when Iraqi troops took the Kurdish village of Sedar and deported three-quarters of the inhabitants, including his mother, his wife and their seven children. They were taken to a concentration camp at Topzawa and from there some were taken to an execution ground near the archeological site of Hatra, south of Mosul. The remains of 192 people have been found, 123 women and children and 69 men, among them Abdullah’s wife and three of their children. There is no trace of his mother and the other four children. They were victims of the genocidal Anfal campaign, which sought to exterminate the Kurds.

Between February and September 1988, 100,000 to 180,000 Kurds died or disappeared. The bombing of the Kurdish village of Halabja with chemical weapons including mustard gas, tabun, sarin and VX on March 16, 1988, which killed 3000 to 5000 civilians, was the most publicised of these atrocities because it occurred near the Iranian border and Iranian troops were able to penetrate with the assistance of Kurds, filming and photographing the victims.

Halabja was not an isolated case however. Saddam used chemical weapons at least 60 times against Kurdish villages during Anfal.
>>>

(Hat tip: Lady of Shalott.)

littlegreenfootballs.com

theaustralian.news.com.au



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)12/5/2005 10:36:33 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
SADDAM’S TRIAL

Cliff May
The Corner

Some excerpts from the testimony of Ahmed Hassan Mohammed:

<<<

“There were mass arrests. Women and men. Even if a child was 1-day-old, they used to tell his parents, ‘Bring him with you.” … There were “random arrests in the streets …”

“I saw corpses and bodies of our neighbors. … Some of them we couldn’t even recognize their bodies.”

"I saw women being tortured… My brother was given electric shocks while my 77-year-old father watched. They told us, 'why don't you confess, you will be executed anyway.'”

"I swear by God I walked by a room and on my left I saw a grinder with blood coming out of it and human hair underneath."

“…a woman told a guard that her infant baby needed milk or he would die. He died and the guard threw him from the window. … Pregnant women gave birth in the prison. Their babies died.’”
>>>

Now I know none of this is as newsworthy as the possibility that someone slipped an Iraqi editor $100 to run an op-ed. Still I do hope it merits some time on CBS/ABC/NBC/PBS etc.

corner.nationalreview.com



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)12/6/2005 8:40:58 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
    Now the Iraqis hold Saddam responsible for his actions, 
but the public nature of the trials will also beg the
question for the international community as to why they
waited twelve years and through seventeen UNSC resolutions
demanding change to do something about this abomination.
The real shame is that some still wanted him left alone
to continue grinding his victims into bloody chunks and
would never have lifted a finger to stop Saddam.

Back To The (Meat) Grinder

By Captain Ed on Capture of Saddam Hussein
Captain's Quarters

The trial of Saddam Hussein resumed yesterday after numerous disruptions from the defense threatened to derail the proceedings. The first of the witnesses offered their testimony after a 90-minute pout by Saddam and his defense toadies, now apparently led by American leftist and supposed idealist Ramsey Clark, who then had to listen while witnesses described the horrors inflicted on the townspeople of Dujail after an assassination attempt in 1982:

<<<

Ahmed Hassan Mohammed was the first witness to testify in the murder and torture case against Saddam, highlighting an emotional day in which the former dictator repeatedly yelled at the judge and the defense team briefly walked out in protest over the proceedings. ...

Mr. Mohammed was 15 when hundreds of families from his village were tortured and killed after an assassination attempt against Saddam. The witness said his family was among the hundreds taken to a Baghdad jail.

"I swear by God, I walked by a room and ... saw a grinder with blood coming out of it and human hair underneath," said Mr. Mohammed, who allowed his face to be shown on camera despite the risk of retaliation by Saddam's supporters.

"My brother was a student in high school, and they took him and my father to be interrogated. They tortured him with electric shocks in front of my 77-year-old father," said a sobbing Mr. Mohammed.

"Some were crippled because they had arms and legs broken," he added.
>>>

The meat-grinder image will undoubtedly remain in the minds of the judges as well as Iraqis and others who listen or follow the testimony in court. Obviously Saddam knew this as well; he began to get disruptive during this testimony, shouting slogans about Iraq while his brother-in-law yelled that the witness needed a psychiatrist. In a Western court, defense attorneys would advise clients not to react so violently to such testimony, as it only confirms the impression of the defendants' arrogance and disdain for any authority other than their own.

The testimony continues this morning, with a Dujail woman describing her treatment as a teenage girl after the roundups. She described the beginning of her four-year ordeal inside Saddam's prison camps:

<<<

Saddam sat stone-faced as the woman, identified only as "Witness A," told the court from behind a light blue curtain that she was taken into custody after the 1982 assassination attempt against the former Iraqi president in the town of Dujail.

The woman often cried during her testimony and repeatedly said she was forced to undress, implying that she had been raped but not saying so outright.

"I begged them, but they hit with their pistols," she said. "They made me put my legs up. There were five or more and they treated me like a banquet ... He [IIS officer Wadah al-Sheikh] continued administering electric shocks and beating me," she said.
>>>

Following Witness A came Witness B, an elderly woman who had been in her early 50s during the Dujail incident. The emotional testimony of these survivors apparently have settled the defendants down to a mostly silent state, although they will still interject accusations of lying occasionally. It doesn't work; the defendants with their disrepectful tactics have already alienated the judges to some degree, with Saddam particularly being provocatively condescending. He called one of the witnesses "son" while warning the witness not to interrupt him, a silly and needlessly arrogant reaction that brought a rebuke from the court.

Now people can see Saddam for what he is, not just through the testimony but from his own actions in court. It is this man's rule -- the tortures, rapes, wholesale murders, and grinders for the broken bodies of his real and perceived enemies -- which some people still think would have been better to allow to continue than to give the Iraqis a chance at freedom and liberty. Now the Iraqis hold Saddam responsible for his actions, but the public nature of the trials will also beg the question for the international community as to why they waited twelve years and through seventeen UNSC resolutions demanding change to do something about this abomination. The real shame is that some still wanted him left alone to continue grinding his victims into bloody chunks and would never have lifted a finger to stop Saddam.

captainsquartersblog.com

insider.washingtontimes.com



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)12/28/2005 11:34:27 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
More Genocide Evidence Found In Iraq

By Captain Ed on War on Terror
Captain's Quarters

The BBC reports that yet more evidence of Saddam Hussein's genocide against the Shi'a came to light today, as workers attempting to restore water service to Karbala discovered a mass grave containing the remains of men, women, and children. The grave contains what the BBC refers to as "rebels" from the 1991 uprisings against Hussein following the defeat of Saddam's forces in Kuwait, but one has to wonder why they would call the children rebels:

<<< A mass grave has been discovered in the predominantly Shia city of Karbala south of Baghdad, Iraqi police said.

Dozens of bodies have reportedly been found, apparently those of Shia rebels killed by Saddam Hussein's army after its defeat in the 1991 Gulf War.

The Shia revolt was crushed and as many as 30,000 people were killed, many of them buried in mass graves.

The remains were uncovered by workmen digging a new water pipe in the centre of the city known for its Shia shrine.

They called the police, who cordoned off the area. Clothing found with the bodies indicated that they included men, women and children. >>>


Had this grave contained the remains of men only, one could understand the explanation of its existence to bury rebels killed in an open battle. However, the presence of women -- not usually associated with Shi'ite political or military activity -- and especially children point to something else entirely. It sounds almost as if the BBC wants to couch this discovery in terms favorable to Saddam. The BBC assumes that all Shi'ites rebelled against the Saddam government, which would make all Shi'ites open targets for reprisals.

This mass grave shows something different than just a rebellion gone bad. It demonstrates that Saddm put down a rebellion among the Shi'a by indiscriminately killing civilians and dumping the bodies where they presumed no one would ever find them. That makes Saddam and his henchmen genocidal maniacs and mass murderers -- not exactly news to anyone, or at least anyone outside of the offices of the BBC.

captainsquartersblog.com

news.bbc.co.uk



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)1/24/2006 5:02:56 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
CAUGHT ON TAPE

Cliff May
The Corner

My organization, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, has just put up on its website, video tapes of torture and murder conducted under Saddam Hussein’s regime.

Be warned: The material is graphic and horrific.

defenddemocracy.org

But as Saddam’s trial resumes, the public has a right to know what crimes were committed – and to see some of the evidence. This has not been possible for those whose primary news sources have been such features as Katie Couric interviewing Ramsey Clarke about the “demonizing” of Saddam.


corner.nationalreview.com



To: Sully- who wrote (9365)6/27/2006 1:19:56 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Victims in Mass Graves Hid Clues in Clothing

Concealed Iraqi ID cards provide a wealth of information for an upcoming Hussein trial.

By Borzou Daragahi, Times Staff Writer
June 27, 2006

BAGHDAD — Perhaps they were so terrified they didn't trust the officers who demanded their identification cards and they hid the cards beneath layers of clothes.

Or maybe they sensed their horrible fate and decided against giving up the last legal proof of their lives before gunshots turned them into anonymous corpses to be devoured by the desert.

Whatever their reasons, more than 10% of the victims found thus far in Saddam Hussein-era mass graves managed to die with their Iraqi identity cards still with them. The phenomenon has dramatically altered the course of the investigation into the former regime's alleged crimes by allowing prosecutors to trace the victims back to their hometowns and construct more complete narratives of their harrowing journeys toward death.

"They had hidden them in secret pockets or sewn them in secret areas, especially the women," said Michael "Sonny" Trimble, a forensic archeologist who oversees a team exhuming and examining mass graves linked to the former regime, including from the 1988 Anfal campaign, in which Kurdish villagers were deported from their homes and later executed.

"They were coming from the north," said Trimble, who is attached to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. "They were told they were being resettled. But they knew."

Trimble spoke Monday during the first media tour of the laboratories of the Mass Graves Team at the Regime Crimes Liaison Office, the law enforcement agency attached to the American Embassy that is helping an Iraqi court prosecute Hussein and his deputies on charges of human rights abuses.

The nine-tent compound on the outskirts of Baghdad includes an array of digital technology used to scan bones and map out gravesites and is staffed by international specialists in the art of resurrecting the lives and deaths of war crimes victims.

Team members say the women's successful efforts to keep their identity cards may foil the former regime's attempts to hide the killings and help Iraqi prosecutors win the upcoming Anfal trial, in which Hussein is accused of killing up to 180,000 Kurdish villagers.

"We can go back to the area where the identity cards were issued [and] we can find survivors," said Raid Juhi, chief investigative judge of the Iraqi High Tribunal, which will begin proceedings on the Anfal after Hussein's current trial ends. "We can find out about mechanisms and dates."

The laminated identification cards known as gensiya have already gone a long way in helping the Mass Graves Team prepare the Anfal case, officials said.

Unlike the trial of Hussein and seven deputies on charges of human rights abuses against the Shiite villagers of Dujayl, now in closing arguments, the Anfal case will focus primarily on forensic evidence amassed by Trimble and his team.

The discovery of the gensiya allowed prosecutors to begin tying bodies to specific hometowns and surviving witnesses, who will be called upon to testify against Hussein.

Since starting operations in August 2004, Trimble has unearthed and dissected six mass grave sites in northwestern and southern Iraq. In all, the bodies of about 335 of the tens of thousands of victims believed to be buried in mass graves have been unearthed and analyzed.

Iraq's security woes have prevented the team from venturing out to all but the safest sites. Unlike human rights groups, Trimble searches only pristine gravesites to build up a criminal case instead of attempting to ascertain the full scope of the crimes.

Many of the largest mass grave sites have been damaged by relatives searching for loved ones, he said. Getting a total count of victims might take decades.

"For me, a sample of 75 people is enough," he said. "It's a matter of, Can we link the location to a possible event and a defendant? If the [grave] is disturbed, I don't want any part of it. From a crime-scene standpoint, it's the end of the world."

Tips from locals have pointed investigators in the direction of some gravesites.

For example, Bedouins tipped off U.S. Marines about a key Anfal site in Muthanna province near the southern city of Samawa shortly after the 2003 American-led invasion, a U.S. Embassy official said.

Using mapping software, Trimble's team creates a digital model of each site he examines, looking for geographic anomalies.

In the case of a Karbala gravesite unearthed in May, the search team spotted an "artificial rise," a classic indicator of a mass grave, amid the miles of undifferentiated desert terrain, said Mark Smith, an archeologist on the Mass Graves Team.

The scientists ascertain the size of a grave with test trenches. Backhoes remove the first layer of dirt, and then diggers get on their knees and carefully employ hand tools once they near the bodies. Often, the victims are buried under enormous volumes of sand and soil, what officials say were concerted efforts to erase the mass slayings from the pages of time.

A mass grave site in Nineveh province containing 64 men allegedly killed during the Anfal campaign was buried under more than 10 feet of dirt. Trimble called it "the deepest grave I've ever excavated in my life."

"These people were not to be found again," he said. "That was clear."

Before removing corpses, Trimble's team painstakingly maps a mass grave site by marking off 40 points around each body and storing the location of each in a computer database. Using metal detectors, the investigators find each bullet shell and casing and record their locations.

Once the information is compiled, the scientists make three-dimensional maps showing the bodies, casings and bullets, and suggest narratives for what may have gone on during the killings.

The bodies are sealed in bags, placed into plastic boxes and flown by helicopter to the forensic analysis facility.

In one tent, scientists separate clothes and belongings from human remains, meticulously labeling each item. In the cultural objects tent, victims' clothes are cleaned with brushes and laid on white boards or put on wooden mannequins as possible courtroom displays.

Ariana Fernandez, a Costa Rican forensic anthropologist, displayed a mannequin of one apparently pregnant woman found clutching her stomach. "She might be Kurdish because of the way she's dressed," Fernandez said.

Before they were loaded onto trucks and buses, the female victims of the Anfal, allegedly told they were being relocated, were believed to have been given a bit of time to gather up their belongings and put on multiple layers of clothing. Many accounts of the Anfal campaign have stated that security forces seized the victims' IDs before killing them.

It was among the women's clothes that investigators began discovering the identification cards, hidden in secret compartments or beneath thick layers.

Often the women were hiding several IDs, including those of their children. For investigators, the discovery of the cards during the team's first excavation of Anfal sites in Nineveh in 2004 changed the endeavor from a forensic analysis of bones and bullet wounds to an effort to track down survivors.

The identity cards, which include a photograph, name, birth date and place of issue, provided a key to the victims' stories, linking them definitively to the Anfal campaign.

"The focus changed," Trimble said. "It was dramatic. We went from, 'Let's do the clothes and forensic analysis' to 'Let's do the clothes, the bones can wait.' Our whole Anfal investigation was based on finalizing IDs and then running them over to the FBI and the Regime Crimes Liaison Office."

Even the digital equipment used to photograph remains was employed in the effort — to help gain information from frayed or faded IDs. During the tour of the photography lab, Australian David Hempenstall took the badly damaged gensiya found in one gravesite and sharpened the contrast to reveal the name and picture of a young woman born in 1964 in the Dukan section of Sulaymaniya province.

"From the gensiya you know the person, which office [issued the card], which family, which village," said Jaafar Mousawi, a prosecutor in Hussein's Dujayl case.

The mystery remains as to why and how the women decided not to give up their last ties to their identities. In the mass grave in Muthanna province, investigators found the body of a woman who had hidden away five ID cards, all of which survived the two decades since the Anfal.

"She was either the sister or mother, [and] she was hiding their family's gensiya," Juhi said. "Maybe the authorities didn't know they were hiding them. They told them, 'We're not going to kill you, we're going to move you.' Maybe they felt danger around them. Who knows?"

latimes.com