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To: JohnM who wrote (109552)	4/15/2005 10:07:12 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793669

No one has advanced some data that suggests just how strong they may be. Just lists of factors. Without evidence that any serious effort has been made to account for these factors the data can't be considered solid information. Just providing the list of factors is enough if the factors are reasonable. It isn't enough to show that the data is wrong, but it is enough to keep you from drawing solid conclusions from the data. Tim

To: JohnM who wrote (109552)	4/16/2005 7:36:41 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793669

John, the real question when assessing healthcare is not the length of life, but the quality. Our medical care is the best in the world because it gives better results, and allows people to feel better. That is much more important than length. How can you prove this? By the inflow from around the world to the USA for healthcare. People come here for the best. Is it more expensive? Of course. Our Doctors and medical people cost twice as much. We live in a richer society, they are not going to work for 3rd world money. When you are sick, you want immediate treatment. You don't get this in other countries. Just look at the number of Canadians that come here for treatment because they don't want to wait, while suffering, for the Canadian Doctors to free up time for them.