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To: Bear Down who wrote (8052)	4/16/2005 1:39:45 AM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 12465

You admittedly have an agenda. I'm not going to call you a liar. The fact that you claim not to personally know any paid bashers does not mean there are none. You certainly have read about and probably know first hand about the rise and influence of hedge funds. I recently posted an article that estimates that over half of all US equity trading is now controlled by hedge funds. With this amount at stake, anyone who feels that there is no scamming, no paid bashers, no collusion, is just living with Michael J. in never, never land or trying to keep the wool over the public's eyes. Sure, it's a great thing that every tout sheet has to disclaim that it is getting paid to tout. I want the same thing for bashers or something equivalent. Let's investigate the hedge funds and find out for sure. If there is no paid bashing, no naked short selling, then the truth will come out. I find it amusing that all these defenders of shorties come out and get so upset when these issues are raised. Again, you may be honest in your remarks. But that does not mean there are not others out there. Do you read the Yahoo boards? The scripted responses, almost generic passages, that can be used from board to board? Is it coincidence that shortie newsletters often precede class action sharks, who do almost nothing for shareholders, grabbing millions in legal fees? Is it coincidence that shortie newsletters and "analysts" often come out after a large short position has been established? There are many issues under 10b-5 as well as other code and regs with respect to the "creation of volume" for followers. I'm sure there are many of these scams that amount to manipulation on the short side. (Note, I'm NOT denying this happens on the long side. I'm just amazed at the effort by some to defend shorts and claim there is nothing untoward going on.) With so much money at stake, the real answers will come when we finally get full investigations into all of these issues.