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To: haqihana who wrote (109993)	4/18/2005 1:31:25 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

To that point there was a great Law and Order CI on last night. The perpetrator of the crimes as much as anyone else wanted himself stopped. They (most or many) have no control over what they do. It is a sickening part of the human condition but if not treated realisticly these guys will do the crime over and over again until they kill someone. Mike

To: haqihana who wrote (109993)	4/18/2005 3:55:52 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793838

Sex offenders means a lot of different things, not just serial child rapists. It also can include someone who groped an unwilling person, or an 18 year old high school senior who had sex with his sophomore girlfriend. A teenage girl who shared naked pictures of herself (I think by putting them on a website but I'm not sure) was tried on child pornography charges (which could get her on the sex offenders list). A 21 year old who made an amateur porn film with his 18 or 19 year old girlfriend was also charged with underage pornography (it was legal for him to have sex with her but in his state participants in pornography have to be 21 or at least did at the time, I don't know if the law has since changed). Obviously your not talking about such people when you say that sex offenders should be locked up for life without any parole. But I believe it is important to explicitly make the distinction . Also there are in-between cases which should be punished but not by life imprisonment IMO. Tim

To: haqihana who wrote (109993)	4/18/2005 5:26:08 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

At the very least, they should be locked up for life without any parole, and some of the worst cases deserve the death penalty. My objection there is the present definition of "sex offender." A guy who has sex with a teenage girl is not always a criminal, IMO. But our present laws encourage girls to take revenge on their ex-boyfriends.

To: haqihana who wrote (109993)	4/19/2005 2:31:31 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

Sadly you've been led down the garden path and missed the point. We all know that 99.9% of sex offenders cannot be treated or rehabilitated. However a huge industry thrives under the delusion they can be treated and rehabilitated and this industry is very profitable. 1) Drug companies 2) Counselors 3) Psychiatrists 4) Lawyers 5) Technical people for monitoring 6) Police 7) Judges 8) News Media 9) Jail guards Personally I would turn Ted Nugent and his associates loose on the entire bunch of them and if anybody said boo they would get it to. story.news.yahoo.com Perhaps Chesterton said it best... “For children,” he says, “are innocent and love justice; while most of us are wicked and naturally prefer mercy.” or maybe Ayn Rand said it better... "Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."