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To: Elroy who wrote (229784)	4/18/2005 4:23:38 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1573921

"Wow! What the heck is the child on days 1 through 7?" Despite the attempted spin, this isn't, at least wasn't, all that unique in the world. Until relatively recently, infant mortality was so high that many peoples wouldn't invest the new baby with any societal connection until it lived for a while. So it was pretty common for a baby to remain without a name or any relationship to the tribe until it was at least months if not a year or more in age. So the Talmud sounds like it is pretty progressive, considering how far back it dates... Edit: it occurs to me that Christians have a christening ceremony after the baby has been around for a while for the same reason.

To: Elroy who wrote (229784)	4/18/2005 4:25:48 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573921

“The Jewish Talmud teaches that the fetus is not a person and has no rights. The Old and New Testaments–rich in astonishingly detailed prohibitions on dress, diet, and permissible words–contain not a word specifically prohibiting abortion." Carl Sagan From article in Parade Magazine from 1990.

To: Elroy who wrote (229784)	4/18/2005 4:27:27 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573921

The Jewish Talmud teaches that the "fetus" is non-human until the eighth day after birth. The Talmud also teaches that all Gentiles are non-humans. The Orthodox and religious Jews still believe and follow these teachings. Even Maimonides taught in his GUIDE FOR THE PERPLEXED that Blacks and Mongolians were non-human. Most rabbis avoid this phrase when the translate Maimonides' work in English. They always include the passage in the Hebrew/Israeli translations.