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To: Slagle who wrote (62267)	4/19/2005 8:39:13 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Re: I am sure many others have and are now working the system to their advantage. In distinction to underhanded, corrupt and often criminal Republican partisans who are working the U.S. system to their advantage? For many of us, the refreshing allure of New Zealand is the complete absence of militarism and nuclear weapons, and the relative lack of the toxic "American culture". Oh, and the sheer physical beauty of the country is certainly a heck of a draw. I know a few people who have made the move. Not one of them is a leech on the state. Unlike a hell of a lot of Republicans I see operating here and in Iraq. The most parasitic people on the planet somehow seem to have found a hero in George Bush. Yeech, what a bunch of leeches.

To: Slagle who wrote (62267)	4/19/2005 8:59:53 AM
From: Elroy Jetson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

New Zealand is marketed in the US to potential tourists as something like a giant pristine park - but with adventure rides. The Americans I run across who long to visit or emigrate to New Zealand have a number of things in common: 1.) none have actually been there, nor do they know anyone who has; 2.) they know nothing about the government in New Zealand, except that they speak some form of English; 3.) they are almost all environmentalists who imagine New Zealand is one large forest with a few lush green meadows, just like they saw in "Lord of the Rings"; 4.) they don't know that almost all forests in New Zealand were clear-cut 100 years ago, typically leaving dry brown fields in their place; 5.) they imagine most of New Zealand looks a lot like "Lord of the Rings" but without the Hobbits; 6.) they are in for a big surprise if they ever go. .