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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (156884)	4/19/2005 11:45:10 AM
From: muzosi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

i understand saying this makes you feel better but that statement is stupid. i think you're smart enough to see that products are separate from the organization marketing them and some times a good product gets beaten by a not as good a one because of marketing, historical or other reasons. if i remember correctly even you admitted that opteron would have been a better choice for the machines your company bought but politics didn't let it. don't keep repeating a stupid statement just because you want to support the company behind the product. as far as i'm concerned, athlon 64 is a better product than any p4 intel has but amd can't market themselves out of a wet paper bag.

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (156884)	4/19/2005 11:47:11 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Elmer, The mythology continues. Intel did not admit to illegal dealings Intel pleaded no contest. It means guilty. You must be going by what they said on the sidewalk outside the courtroom, not by what they pleaded to (and signed) inside the courtroom. Joe

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (156884)	4/19/2005 11:47:13 AM
From: Smallpops7	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Just out of curiosity, so your definition of a "superior product" is that it outsells its competitor? Is this the only criteria? IMO you have always made valid statements about the profitability of Intel and its products but I think you may not what to take such a simple approach to your definition. There are hundreds of reasons why Intel sells more product than AMD and a majority of those have absolutely nothing to do with the actual product. A few of the biggest that I can think of off the top of my head include: 1) OEM support. 2) Marketing 3) Manufacturing 4) Fair market ...... I for one believe that in the true sense of the word IPF is "superior" to x64. Let IPF does not outsell x64. Pentium-M is superior to Pentium-4 let it does not outsell it. I can go on and on with such examples. Regards, Smallpops